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chris200x
11-26-2006, 12:06 PM
The front and rear sprockets line up pretty good I think... but I don't remember the gap between the sprocket hub and carrier. :wondering Should they sit flush against each other? Should I just keep torqing down on the axle nut to take the space up? :confused:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/chrisr200x/headlightguard023.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/chrisr200x/headlightguard025.jpg

chris200x
11-26-2006, 12:45 PM
Hmm, this would be the only "before" pic I have of the rear axle. Can't really tell by this... and the manual doesn't really go into detail.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/chrisr200x/backyardtrack023-1.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/chrisr200x/headlightguard023-1.jpg

sblt500r
11-26-2006, 10:05 PM
i would say it has to go in farther. is that the hub i sent you? is it the same as your old one?

are you sure the sprocket goes on that side? the lt250r's have the sprocket on the other side of the hub. you have to remove the hub to change the sprocket, which is a real pain. that could be why your chain was falling off alot.

Big D
11-26-2006, 11:23 PM
I don’t think that’s an lt250r. It looks like a 4 stroke quad sport. Maybe a lt230 or 250 What is throwing me off is the carrier and swing arm. I have three of them but they don’t have that kind of adjustment. But I do feel that sblt500r is correct about the hub having to go on further. If you put it up on jack stands do you have any side play in your axle? I will look at one of mine to see if the sprocket is on the same side and let you know.

chris200x
11-27-2006, 01:13 AM
Yeah shawn, it's the hub I sent to you to fix for me. Its an 87 lt230 quad runner.

The rear sprocket I believe is on right as if you look closely you can see how buggered up the bolts are from throwing the chain. I have the nut torqued down pretty tight.. but I wanrted to ask before I start forcing things.

The way the sprocket hub is made it looks as if the little lip is supposed to slide inside the seals into the carrier. Maybe I can bang it in a bit with a large hammer? Idk...

I know there are quite a few quadsport (same setup) guys on the boards... Maybe someone can go take a quick look or snap a pic for me?

DeePa
11-27-2006, 02:59 AM
you just changed the rear axle bearings right?

Are you sure they are seated all the way?

Mike

chris200x
11-27-2006, 04:27 AM
Mike, all bearings (new) seals and the spacer inside the carier are installed correcttly.

chris200x
11-27-2006, 09:36 AM
This will give you guys a better idea of what I mean. you would think (well, at least I do) that the slotted end (w/o paint) would go inside the carrier. But how far? It seems like I wont be able to tighten that large nut much more. :wondering

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/chrisr200x/headlightguard027.jpg

4cylinders
11-27-2006, 12:51 PM
hey, aren't there 2 washers between the nuts and hub? all that's behind the hub is the seal and bearing?

jason 32
11-27-2006, 01:02 PM
from the chain guard - it looks like its not on far enough
can you turn it around? whats it like then?

chris200x
11-27-2006, 01:52 PM
hey, aren't there 2 washers between the nuts and hub? all that's behind the hub is the seal and bearing?

Hmm, trying to describe how it goes.. big axle nut.. two washers.. sprocket hub... carrier. at least thats how I have it.

someone have a pic? :pics: :wondering

sblt500r
11-27-2006, 02:19 PM
big d, i know its a quadsport, but they have the same basic rear axle set up as the lt250r. thats why i asked if the sprocket went on the other side of the hub. but it doesn't, you can tell in the parts diagram that its on right.

when you slide the axle in, is the disc hub all the way against the bearing? because there should be a spacer, BUT the spacer goes on the outside of the disc hub, then the 2 nuts on the disc side. it could have been put on wrong before, and you just kept it that way?

the only other thing i can say is wrong, is the disc hub isn't on far enough. you would have to loosen the sprocket nuts, and then try and tighten the disc side first, to pull the axle to the right side.

chris200x
11-27-2006, 02:40 PM
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/chrisr200x/headlightguard032.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/chrisr200x/headlightguard029.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/chrisr200x/headlightguard030.jpg

Shawn, on that spare hub you sent me (now yellow :rolleyes: ) There are some wear marks on the thinner non painted side. this makes me think that that is indeed the side that goes into the carrier. Maybe the wear marks are from it being rode with a bad bearing on that side. :wondering

So, If one of you guys with a quadrunner or spert can post up a pic. I can compare..I ready appreciat it.

I'm unable to get the sprocket hub bolts out as they are mangled and rounded. I'd have to cut them off for sure.

devildog_0431
11-27-2006, 03:35 PM
U get the correct bearings ? perhaps they are just too wide if they are the wrong ones ? Should fit "like a glove"

chris200x
11-27-2006, 07:45 PM
A little update. I installed a new chain on it put it in gear and rolled it around my driveway. I would guess that if the rear sprocket was off the chain would of jumped off already.

Devildoggy.. I got an all balls bearing kit and it was indeed the right kit for this quad. This really has me stumped.

sblt500r
11-27-2006, 09:28 PM
with the chain on, clamp a straight edge to the rear sprocket, and check to see if the chain is inline with the front sprocket. if it is, thats the way it goes!

oh, with the rear end off the ground, spin the axle, with the chain on. while you are spinning it, it should not make any weird noises. should spin nice and smooth with no clunking noises.

those grooves in that hub are from the seal. dirt gets in the seal and wears out the hub.

chris200x
11-27-2006, 09:39 PM
Everything spins nicely. I was doing that before when I had the bike up on the stand. No wierd noises or nothing like that. I think this is the way it goes as if you notice in some of those pics where the chain has been scraping the skidplate. It looks as if it's where it's supposed to be. Well at least that's what I'm trying to convince myself anyways. :lol:

4cylinders
11-27-2006, 11:30 PM
hey, just a thought, are the swingarm bearings good? the chain would pull the sprocket out of alignment under load, if those are bad.

junkrider
11-28-2006, 06:01 AM
Chris-

It looks fine. I can't take a pic of mine at the moment, but i did compare the two.

Yes, mine has a slight appearance of gap. Goes: big nut, narrow nut, washer , washer, sprocket on outside, hub, seal, bearing, spacer inside of carrier.

I think your's looks just fine. I looked at my book, and there's an appearance of gap from lip of hub about 1/4" (?) from seal to the unmachined portion of the hub.

Even your yellow hub has wear marks that agree from the seal.

Take a yard stick and line up from fr sprkt to rr sprkt. Should be inline.

-mike

chris200x
11-28-2006, 06:13 AM
Thanks guys! :beer

sblt500r
11-29-2006, 09:52 PM
well, has the chain fallen off yet?????

chris200x
11-29-2006, 09:53 PM
well, has the chain fallen off yet?????

:confused: :wondering Well NO.. I cannot get it started... something wrong with the carb?! :lol: :rolleyes:

sblt500r
11-29-2006, 11:01 PM
:confused: :wondering Well NO.. I cannot get it started... something wrong with the carb?! :lol: :rolleyes:

thats a big load of bs!:rolleyes: it must be the operator:D

devildog_0431
12-01-2006, 02:18 AM
I would be p!ssed man, LOL...always something else going wrong when u fix one thing.

chris200x
12-01-2006, 06:05 AM
Na, I was just teasing sblt500r. :beer as he was the one that did the carb for me. (also did that fine weldjob on the carrier:naughty: )