Anyone running these rear GNCC Holeshots ?

[Huffa]

How do you like them ? I'm interested in the 21X11X9's.

I like the fact that they are smack in the middle of the 20/22 tire diameter spectrum and the wider spaced knobs for better self cleaning.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/huffa/holeshot_gncc.jpg

From ITP website .........

"The rear GNCC is also lighter and very easy to sling around in the woods. The taller lugs give it so much more traction-it really hooks up, with a lot of grip and less wheelspin under power. But you can slide it around when you need to, with less bounce in rough corners. Overall these tires are very stable at higher speeds, but they also work really good in the slower ruts, rocks and braking bumps. They just don't jerk you around as much, which really reduces fatigue. They wear very well, and I've bashed them into a big rocks and stumps repeatedly and they hold up great."

Front: 21x7-10, 22x7-10 (6-ply); Rear: 20x10-9, 21x11-9 (6-ply).
6-ply tough yet light in weight. 2 pounds lighter than Holeshot XC model, 2 pounds lighter than the Razr.
Lower in profile, narrower and lighter than our XC/XCT models.
Special angled shoulder knob design provides increased side bite for faster, more controllable cornering.
Bright hot patch logo on sidewall. "

[Bryan Raffa]

nathen got a FREE set at unidilla that were run one race..not shure if he has ran them yet... Im thinkin they were the SX's witch is gonna be my next set!! the SX has smaller and more knobs..

[Huffa]

You just using them for motocross and if not you want a small 18 incher?

http://www.itptires.com/sportatv/holeshot_sx.html

I can't get used to how they look, running small tires like that it start to looks goofy towards the front, you don't think so?

[SYKO]

man huffa I think you have officialy turned into a SUPER post whore! theres like 10 threads started by you in the last week! go out and damn ride!! oh and those tires are the ONLY holeshots worth buying

[Huffa]

man huffa I think you have officialy turned into a SUPER post whore! theres like 10 threads started by you in the last week! go out and damn ride!! oh and those tires are the ONLY holeshots worth buying

10,20 30 .........so what, who cares !

I have serious questions to ask, except for the arm chair :D

You seem to be quite the tire expert, so all 5 or 6 of the other styles are no good?

What, did you test everyone of them? All that R&D time they did for nothing, maybe you should work at ITP so they don't waste any more valuble time ?

If anything, you could hop up and modify their arm chairs, install some holeshots SX'ers all the way around, since of course those are the only good ones they make.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/huffa/armchair.jpg

[SYKO]

yes in fact I have used everyone of those tires you have posted before, not only on my macines but on my freinds machines as well, the honest truth is I cant get away from fast trackers, they seem to offer the best all around performance of any tire, the holeshot gncc/sxers clean better but spin more regular holeshots/shredders/razzrs spin more than I want them to and dont really care for them, r&d time??lol, every manufacturer wants you to buy there tire do you think they would say " our tire offer supreme suckedness in all conditions you will hate it more than a gay stepfather" I dont think so, also if your a racer and a tire company says HEY we'll give you tires for a whole season if you plug our tires, what would you say NO?? ok... you would run the most god afull tire out there if you got them for free and you were racing, even maybe trailpro's?? bauahhahahahaha

[Huffa]

yes in fact I have used everyone of those tires you have posted before, not only on my macines but on my freinds machines as well, the honest truth is I cant get away from fast trackers, they seem to offer the best all around performance of any tire, the holeshot gncc/sxers clean better but spin more regular holeshots/shredders/razzrs spin more than I want them to and dont really care for them, r&d time??lol, every manufacturer wants you to buy there tire do you think they would say " our tire offer supreme suckedness in all conditions you will hate it more than a gay stepfather" I dont think so, also if your a racer and a tire company says HEY we'll give you tires for a whole season if you plug our tires, what would you say NO?? ok... you would run the most god afull tire out there if you got them for free and you were racing, even maybe trailpro's?? bauahhahahahaha

Performance on what type of terrian? Your not being fair I think? Your talking, it seems to me, under racing conditions and flat out which ones absolutely perform the best FOR YOU.

I want one just for trail riding, I don't care if it does not slide, spin quite as good as the others. It does not mean a tire is worthless just because it doesn't perform to your standards, know what I mean?

I'm after durability more then anything and like tread that is spaced farther apart. The ones you like, I'm sure their fantastic, FOR YOU.

Diameter of the tire is very important too and I won't go under a 21.

My apologies though for not describing what I will be using them for. Like said, mostly trail riding in PA on loose-hardpacked soil with a fair share of rocks depending where in PA I am.

[SYKO]

trails here from muddy swampy conditions with ruts to pure sugar sand and hard pack clay as well... I like a tire to work well all around not jsut in one area, the last set of shredders I had on my 83 I got rid of I didnt like the way they worked in any terrein I had my old fast trackers wich came off my 85 and put them on. I ride on all kinds of terrein not just fast either I think though even for trail riding you need to stay with a 20 inch tall tire

[Huffa]

trails here from muddy swampy conditions with ruts to pure sugar sand and hard pack clay as well... I like a tire to work well all around not jsut in one area, the last set of shredders I had on my 83 I got rid of I didnt like the way they worked in any terrein I had my old fast trackers wich came off my 85 and put them on. I ride on all kinds of terrein not just fast either I think though even for trail riding you need to stay with a 20 inch tall tire

Understood, I thought you were just talking race conditions.

My apologies though for not describing what I will be using them for. Like said, mostly trail riding in PA on loose-hardpacked soil with a fair share of rocks depending where in PA I am.

Thank you !

[BigGreenMachine]

Performance on what type of terrian? Your not being fair I think? Your talking, it seems to me, under racing conditions and flat out which ones absolutely perform the best FOR YOU.

I want one just for trail riding, I don't care if it does not slide, spin quite as good as the others. It does not mean a tire is worthless just because it doesn't perform to your standards, know what I mean?

I'm after durability more then anything and like tread that is spaced farther apart. The ones you like, I'm sure their fantastic, FOR YOU.

Diameter of the tire is very important too and I won't go under a 21.

My apologies though for not describing what I will be using them for. Like said, mostly trail riding in PA on loose-hardpacked soil with a fair share of rocks depending where in PA I am.





If your just trail riding and not all out racing then any aggressive tread tire like a holeshot/razr/trekker will suit your needs just fine. I do recall someone running the tires you posted on a 350X and being very pleased with them.

www.kendausa.com
www.maxxis.com
www.itptires.com

[ATC-Eric]

Yes, I am very pleased with them. I like the way they look, their not your run of the mill holeshot.

These have mostly seen dirt and sand, not to much mudd. Their really good in the trails.



http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k300/ericbsemail/P4220005.jpg


http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k300/ericbsemail/P3110018.jpg

[Huffa]

Thanks Eric.

What size are they? 21X11x9's (they look to be) ?

If so, with it inflated to proper specs, can you measure the diameter and see if it TRUELY is 21 inches ?

That measurement varies a great deal sometimes and if anything I hope the 21" runs on the large size or IS TRUELY at least 21".

Is the width a true 11" also ?

That's what (one of the things) I like about them too, not your average holeshot that 100's of guys run.

They look great on there !! :beer

[ATC-Eric]

Thanks Eric.

What size are they? 21X11x9's (they look to be) ?

If so, with it inflated to proper specs, can you measure the diameter and see if it TRUELY is 21 inches ?

That measurement varies a great deal sometimes and if anything I hope the 21" runs on the large size or IS TRUELY at least 21".

Is the width a true 11" also ?

That's what (one of the things) I like about them too, not your average holeshot that 100's of guys run.

They look great on there !! :beer

Thanks Huffa :beer

Ill get back to you about measurements here in a bit, and yes they are 21-11-9.

Eric

[MO dx]

I didn`t like the regular holeshots on my q-sport it got stuck alot on that ride last week. But worked great on the race track they had there. Did the same trail with the dx on scorpians and they were pretty good except in the real deep mud. I `m watching this post to see what to get for the q-sport next

[ATC-Eric]

The hidth is 20.5" I wont have my hands on a digi tire gauge till later tonight. I like the preasure its at now, but Im not sure where they are.

The width is dead on to 11"


If you think about it, you only loose a .25" with the ofset from 21.


Hope this helps.

[Huffa]

The hidth is 20.5" I wont have my hands on a digi tire gauge till later tonight. I like the preasure its at now, but Im not sure where they are.

The width is dead on to 11"


If you think about it, you only loose a .25" with the ofset from 21.


Hope this helps.

Thanks Eric, 20.5 is close enough for me I guess, I'm not going to cry :cry: over a 1/2 inch.

The best deal I found so far for a tire/wheel package is $292 including shipping. That's this tire and ITP C series 9" wheel.

http://www.4atvtires.com/atvTires/showProduct.php?id=8295&cat_id=758

Rocky mountain has the same tire/wheel desal but it's 314 including shipping.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/tireWheelPackages.jsp#wheelAnchor

Interest you at all MO dx?

:naughty: Maybe I could get a 1/2 a dozen guys interested and get 50 bucks knocked off , not sure if it's worth the hassle though?

That ITP C series wheel is pretty good looking I think :naughty:

[ATC-Eric]

Thats not a bad deal. I got hosed on mine.

[Huffa]

Thats not a bad deal. I got hosed on mine.

You bought just the tires and have the stock wheels, correct? You got :lol: raked, how so, didn't you shop around, just bought at a dealer ?

............now onto your front tire. Is that the stock one ? What kind (Ohstu?), type, size is it? Could it be a Dunlop KT 576 , like below?

I need a front one too and like what you have.

Mines a Dunop 23.5X8X11 but the tread design is nothing like yours.

[ATC-Eric]

The front is the stock Ohstu H-Track, 23-8-11.

I got hosed because I bought them at a dealer. It was a last minute thing, and I REALLY needed tires. I like to buy online, but I was stuck without tires on a weekend and wanted to ride.

They were marked a $115 per tire, I got him down to $100 a peice, and half install charges. They like me up there, I have spent a LOT of money on my Z through them.


EDIT: Which bike you looking to put these on?

[ccdhowell]

I always read these tire threads with great interest. I'm a tire enthusiast from way back and like to hear others opinions. I use a tire on the back of my Tecate that rarely gets any notice, but is similar to the GNCC Holeshots, it is the Pirelli Race Rail XC. Made for cross country racing it has never let me down. Very good on trails and the best I've seen in light and heavy mud. Only drawback is that they don't slide very well. I have the 20s on mine and they seem tall for 20s. Haven't measured them though.

[Huffa]

I always read these tire threads with great interest. I'm a tire enthusiast from way back and like to hear others opinions. I use a tire on the back of my Tecate that rarely gets any notice, but is similar to the GNCC Holeshots, it is the Pirelli Race Rail XC. Made for cross country racing it has never let me down. Very good on trails and the best I've seen in light and heavy mud. Only drawback is that they don't slide very well. I have the 20s on mine and they seem tall for 20s. Haven't measured them though.

That does look simular. I have done some more research and over and over I read the GNCC's hook up very good but like you say with yours, they don't slide very well.

I also read quite a # of guys reported a fairly rough ride with a lot of ITP tires including the GNCC's.

:crazy: I'm driving myself insane reading all this info!! :lol:

:rolleyes: I'm starting to lean back to ITP's new Trac Star RADIAL that I originally had my eyes on ......... http://www.itptires.com/sportatv/tracstar.html

I don't want to make the mistake of the wrong tire selection and that's why I'm making such an ordeal about it. I really think the Trac Stars will be a good all around performer with hooking up and traction + they are a 6 ply too AND the radial constrution will give a nice smooth ride for this old man! :lol:

[Mike_Ham_250R]

Huffa just get a set of 20x11x9 (or 22 if you must) Razr 6-ply. :) I had them on my 400ex and then my 250r and I have to say they were very nice. Lasted LONG and I even rode on the street a lot. Hooks up well, slides perfect if you give it enough gas and manhandling, 6ply is nice an thick but didn't seem extremely overweight. It was a good tire.

[ATC-Eric]

I hope he found tires by now.........