Tri z bogging in first...

[chris200x]

I drop it down in first and when I take off it just goes a few feet and dies. I also have no idle edjustment either in or out/ :confused: :wondering

HELP!!!

[HEAD09]

whats your mix screw at... will it get rpms in idle?

[Bryan Raffa]

What carb..stock? and what size main jet?


what color is the plug? possible fouled plug from idling.. un screw your idle screw all the way and loosen the throttle cable till the slide drops all the way down ,,leave a 1/8 or better slack in the cable .. then try adjusting the idle..

I'm guessing its running Rich,,as from the photo I saw the other day with a cloud of smoke behind it. Air mixture screw 2 full turns out,,40:1 Good oil,,, New plug ... warm it up and rip it wide open then look at the plug...could be Fat on the low end witch could be corrected by the air screw and moveing the needle.. still need me to call:D

[chris200x]

thanks Bryan, I'll give it a shot and let ya's know. I'm cutting it close here (for sunday)

What should I be running this amsoil dominator at? I added 4 ounces per gallon.

[Bryan Raffa]

4 is like 32:1 try 3 ounces per gallon that will help...

got alot of spew comeing out of the pipe?

[Tri-ZNate]

Chris like we told you thats really rich. Put a new plug in and just try to keep it cleaned out. 32:1 is not a slow paced ratio. OR drain the tank and mix at 40:1 (3.2oz/gallon)

[MOTOMAX27]

running to rich??? check the plug!!!

[sblt500r]

chris you have to rev it! its not a 4 stroke put put!!:lol:

[Bryan Raffa]

chris you have to rev it! its not a 4 stroke put put!!:lol:

:lol: that could be some of the problem:p

[hondaracer11]

Originally Posted by sblt500r
chris you have to rev it! its not a 4 stroke put put!!

lol i had that problem when i got my 1st 2 stroke

[Tri-Z Pilot]

Running too rich? thats actually on the lean side. 32to1 is a good mixture thats what Ive always run on my 2smokes. It sounds to me like it could be a fuel delivery problem, theres enough to idle, but not enough to go. Blocked fuel passage?

[chris200x]

well even sitting still at idle. I hit the gas sommewhat hard and it boggs. to tired to mess with it todays though...

[ATC-Eric]

Sounds like a fuel delivery problem, or a fouled plug.

[Somekindofjerk]

1. Does it start and idle

2. If it does start and idle WELL does it bog when you give it throttle

3. If it idles like *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited* and clears out when you rev it up or runs away check for vacuum leaks

4. If it only bogs when you give it throttle and idles fine check carb tuning/fuel mixture/Reed valves

Allso, if its been run rich a long time pull the exhaust off and pour the oil and fuel out of it...

[Bryan Raffa]

you gonna mess with this today chris? check and see what stamp is on the slide and needel!

[chris200x]

One problem I'm having is I dont know how to take the needle out of the slide to check where is at. I got new feul mixed (3:1) and a new plug..I also made sure the slide is all the way down. with the idle screw out. its just kinda early to fire it up around here...

It was just boggin pulling out.. once I git it going it went fairly well... so idk...

OH, when I do a plug chop do I let off the gas then hit the kill switch or just lill it at WOT?

[Bryan Raffa]

unscrew the slider and pull it out ,, Disconnect the cable from the slider, pull the spring up and remove the keeper theres two screws under that plate remove them and the needel will fall out when you turn it upside down the stamp will be under that plate and on the needel..go ahead and raise the C clip one groove..this will give you a crisper 1/4 to 1/2 Pay attention to the stamps.. you dont want any 86 parts in there..or you will never get it jetted right. Ill be in and out all morning my radiator blew on my truck NOW! What next?

[slothminx]

Start with basics, Its most likely a fouled plug you dont want to go rushing into stripping the carb down just yet if its been running ok before with this setup :lol:.

Try a new plug, if that doesnt help, I had a blocked spark arrester with the standard can that made the engine so it would barely rev, After trying everything else I took out the sparky and it ran better then ever before. I now run a answer pipe on it. Look at the airfilter too, Unlikely to be the issue, but it sounds like its being choked.

[chris200x]

Hmm everything is checked and doulble checked... I moved the clip up one from the bottom.. still wont idle and it only goes a few feet that boggs and dies.

I give up! :cry:

[slothminx]

Have you changed the plug yet? not cleaned, changed with new.

If that doesnt work, then it could be fuel supply.

[ColeTrickle]

Sounds to me like the problem is only in the low circuit. Is this a new problem? Was the bike running good before? You said it will get up into high rpms, just doesn't like to go from idleing to 1/4 throttle. And wont idle on it's own, can you keep it running just by giving little blips of the throttle? Could have a clogged or wrong size low speed Jet in there. Also one clip from the bottom on the needle sounds too rich to me, go one up from middle and try it. If it will go wide open then it's not a fuel delivery problem.

I'm still trying to get my Z dialed in and don't have it right yet. I'm just trying to change one thing at a time so I don't get too far ahead of myself!

[03 ORANGE SHEE]

i wish i was there, i could get it going in just a few, got extra carbs etc...
i think you need to make sure you undid the chain from the tree where you tie it up at night, when all the slack is gone, BAM, stalls every time!:lol:
turn the feul on?? maybe try and put fuel in a bootle and gravity feed in into the carb, this wlll tell if its the pump :idea:

[Tri-ZNate]

Chris I was looking at the ride thread and you said it dies when it goes in first. Is it doing the same thing it was when we were up? If so git her to warm up and put it on blocks to get the plates free

[03 ORANGE SHEE]

when i knocked on the door earlier the sucka was sleepin...:rolleyes:
o well, three hours back to the house, ya snooze ya loose!:lol:

[factoryX]

my friend got his first two stroke dirt bike and he did not rev it right and after three moths of owning it and 6 rides total on it, it had groves cylinder and major motor damage....