questions on new 3 wheeler [Archive]

Rockrash

01-26-2008, 01:43 PM

hay guys,
Im new here to the forum and to 3 wheelers. Anyway I just bought this honda off my frend he has no idea what it is and neather do I. I was hoping some one can tell me what year and modle it is iv looked all over it and cant find out anything. This is the only pic I have of it because I have not brought it home yet Ill be doing tha later tonight.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd248/rockrash2/attachment.jpg?t=1201369146

Hair Bear Bunch

01-26-2008, 01:55 PM

Hi and welcome.
I think in a previous life it was a Honda Atc 70 (70cc, not 1970!).
Not a clue what the front forks are from, maybe home made. The rear fenders look suspiciously like mine, no idea who made them, they fit the 70, but they're not Honda!
From the pic the chassis/engine is a 70.
You do realise of course that now you have one, you're hooked!
Rob.

Yamada

01-26-2008, 02:03 PM

This fork is custom. Look like the last owner wanted to had some Kawasaki KLT 250 flavor to his honda...

Threes company

01-26-2008, 03:27 PM

Looks like at one time that thing was a little show bike. Agree with the other poster.... looks like a "klt-ish" frontend, don't think its an actual kawasaki frontend though, looks too small. After-market from back in the day maybe? Looks cool on there, heavy-duty. :beer

TwoHundredEx

01-26-2008, 03:36 PM

I think it might be an ATC90, looks a little big to be a 70, I could be wrong though.
Either way, looks pretty damn cool!

bigred1

01-26-2008, 04:02 PM

I totaly dig the front forks, never seen that set up before.

Dirtcrasher

01-26-2008, 05:07 PM

I like them too, they sure do look to be a professionally made aftermarket piece.

They sure do affect the wheelbase though!! I'll bet she runs nice in a straight line but doesn't turn too well!!

RedRider_AK

01-26-2008, 05:53 PM

LMAO Holy crap! That is one wonky front end!

blue27

01-26-2008, 05:55 PM

Welcome, :welcome: you have come to the information area, lol.
That an ATC 90 with aftermarket forks and a custom paint job. Of course I want to see more pics ASAP!!!!:lol:
Vealmonkey is the the guy that will pop in here and tell you exactly what type of forks they are and a buch off other forgoteen ATC90 modification stuff.:naughty: Post some more pics of it and the rear of the frame, carb area, etc. We will figure it out. No Problem!!! I will PM him and tell him to check out this thread.

Vealmonkey

01-26-2008, 08:51 PM

Are you selling it? If you are I want first dibs!!! Well just by the only picture you have listed, it is an atc90. Looks like aftermarket frame, but I would need a couple pictures. I can tell you this, I have been looking for those front forks for awhile. They are called "rutt riders". I believe they are the real first aftermarket suspension front ends for the atc90s'. The are like the kawasaki front ends, and possibly kawasaki copied them (I'm sure that will open up a debate in itself). The engine will have a serial number on it that will tell the year, get the serial number and we can tell you the year engine. I doubt it's a us90 because it has the later footpegs, but it would probably be 1974-1978 by the fenders and the footpegs. A great find. And like I said if you don't want it, I would give it a good home. Some more pictures of the other side of the engine and without the rear fenders on will help alot to identify it. I can say the rear sprocket is aftermarket too. I look forward to you posting more pictures. I really dig on the older trikes and you have found yourself a neat one. Welcome to the boards. We hope to see alot more of you and your trike. And I hope you realize once you have one trike, you will want more. And you can still get the majority of the parts that will help get your trike running and keep it running. More pics please.

blue27

01-26-2008, 08:55 PM

What did I tell you??? Vealmonkey=ATC90 info

Threes company

01-26-2008, 09:11 PM

Well just by the only picture you have listed, it is an atc90. Looks like aftermarket frame, but I would need a couple pictures. I can tell you this, I have been looking for those front forks for awhile. They are called "rutt riders". I believe they are the real first aftermarket suspension front ends for the atc90s'.
I for one am impressed with your ATC type wisdom Vealmonkey. I bow before your greatness sir. :cool: And yes... we need more pics, especially of the frame. Any chance this is rear suspended? :beer

Vealmonkey

01-26-2008, 09:32 PM

It doesn't look rear suspended from the picture. If you've seen a suspended 90, you can tell right away. I hope that doesn't sound conceited, just that suspension 90\110 frames "sit" way different than hardtail frames. I would like to see other pictures to see what other goodies it has on it. I've never seen anyone post a picture of a 90 with knock-off hubs or an aftermarket rear disc. And I've seen a fair share of 90s. I've bought a couple just to get one part off them too and resold them right after. Many people added some crazy parts just becuse the part at the dealership was a couple bucks more. It would be cool to see a trike that had all the aftermarket goodies. About the only big things I never knew to be reproduced aftermarket wise were the cases and the heads and the heads I'm not even sure of. Some internal parts too, but alot of internals were reproduced aftermarket wise and still pop up new.

Rockrash

01-27-2008, 03:23 AM

Thanks for all the repyls and info:beer. Anyway hear are som more pics i took it to my shop, and with a can of carb cleaner and som starting fluid we got it running just wont idle.
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd248/rockrash2/honda002.jpg?t=1201418348
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd248/rockrash2/honda008.jpg?t=1201418392
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd248/rockrash2/honda003.jpg?t=1201418443
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd248/rockrash2/honda009.jpg?t=1201418489
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd248/rockrash2/honda007.jpg?t=1201418534
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd248/rockrash2/honda006.jpg?t=1201418572

Nick_R_23

01-27-2008, 03:46 AM

WOW!! That is one bad ass 3 wheeler!!!

Pop that tank off, is there some sort of oil cooler or something under there?!?!

EDIT: Is that also a cam spacer in there behind the points cover, or is it supposed to look like that??

-Nick :TrikesOwn

Vealmonkey

01-27-2008, 03:50 AM

Wow, I like what I'm seeing. First of all, aftermarket rear disc Brake!!! Supertrapp exhaust. Might even be aftermarket rear axle, but hard to tell at this angle, but I'm not seeing the axle taper off so I'm saying likely aftermarket. Extended vented dipstick. Aftermarket chain tensioner, I don't think cancilla. maybe a Pauter frame, but would have to see picture with the tank off and a bad side shot at the rear axle area to tell for sure. And I'm not quite sure what is going on with the head. I would really take lots of pics of the paint scheme and do some tracings too, cause I would want to redo the paint scheme just the way it is. That is one really trick period piece you have there. That is quite a time machine, real 1981 or so you have there. I would have to see some closer pics of the engine especially around the cylinder head area. You might have a really trick piece there. I wish I could find something like that. You might have an aftermarket cylinder and I'm not sure about the head. Not sure if it has an oil cooler, can't be a double plug, not recognizable in the picutes that came out for me. I'm going to reply this and reload and see if the other pictures come out. What a great find and it keeps getting better the more I see. More treats with each picture. I know you're not getting rid of this, right? If you do, we'll talk.

Rockrash

01-27-2008, 04:10 AM

The pics I took today were with my phone so ill take some with my camra tomorrow. I will also take the tank off and get closer pics of the engine.

Vealmonkey

01-27-2008, 04:12 AM

It's definitely a pauter frame. Looks like a Johnsons' disc brake kit, brake rod activated. Oil Cooler. Non stock carb but looks like a stock, maybe bored out intake. Honda cylinder and head. Piston size unknown, cam unknown.
Just from the paint job and the accessories, that trike was someones pride and joy and I'm sure it was well know wherever they hung out at. Probably had it's picture in a magazine. When that trike was fresh, it was truly something to behold. Polished aluminum and shiney paint and all. Please do that trike justice and restore it just the way it is. If you wanted to go bigger and better on the engine, by all means. But please preserve the paint scheme. If you want to change the paint, sell the tank and fenders to me at least. I would love to have them restored just the way they are. If you change the paint, you are doing that trike a disservice. Have fun and bring it back the way it was.

RedRider_AK

01-27-2008, 04:28 AM

I think I understand why Vealmonkey is all hot and bothered with this machine. It definetely looks unlike any custom 90 I've ever seen! :drool: I would give someone's right arm for it!

Nick_R_23

01-27-2008, 04:35 AM

I would give someone's right arm for it!

Right arm?!?! Thats it?!?! Dude, that things worthy of a left testicle!!!! :lol:

-Nick :TrikesOwn

RedRider_AK

01-27-2008, 04:38 AM

Right arm?!?! Thats it?!?! Dude, that things worthy of a left testicle!!!! :lol:

-Nick :TrikesOwn

Like I said on MSN, next time some Girl Scouts stop by and try to hawk their awesome cookies, I will totally be getting that trike :lol: :twisted:

Nick_R_23

01-27-2008, 04:43 AM

Like I said on MSN, next time some Girl Scouts stop by and try to hawk their awesome cookies, I will totally be getting that trike

Just make sure to jack their cookie stash and send a few boxes of those Samoas my way,, I havent had those in forever!!

-Nick :TrikesOwn

RedRider_AK

01-27-2008, 04:48 AM

Just make sure to jack their cookie stash and send a few boxes of those Samoas my way,, I havent had those in forever!!

Oh yeah, will do, comrade. I love them myself.

P.S. Watch us hijacking this thread with our talk about testicles and Girl Scouts... :crazy:

Nick_R_23

01-27-2008, 04:54 AM

P.S. Watch us hijacking this thread with our talk about testicles and Girl Scouts...

Theres a comment in there somewhere but I dont think Ill touch it. :beer

-Nick :TrikesOwn

factoryX

01-27-2008, 05:32 AM

this looks like it was made for flat tracking or a early race bike...

edog

01-27-2008, 09:15 AM

I see the oil cooler between the front engine mount.
Has a 110 carb
Maybe bored and stroked to 180 cc
Does it run?

What do I win?

Very nice trike!!!!

edog

01-27-2008, 09:55 AM

I cleaned up the pics for you!
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/edog_02/attachment.jpghttp://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/edog_02/honda002.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/edog_02/honda007.jpghttp://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/edog_02/honda008.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/edog_02/honda009.jpg
!!!!Welcome to the site!!!!

blue27

01-27-2008, 10:33 AM

Vealmonkey is :drool: :drool: :drool: !!!!:eek: :D

Thanks for the new pics that is was nice looking atc90 there. I remember those days of all the cool 90 stuff.

factoryX

01-27-2008, 10:34 AM

this thing kicks major butt, does it run?

Vealmonkey

01-27-2008, 01:11 PM

A 110 carb wouldn't work with a bore and stroke. It wouldn't run well. And that carb has a round fuel bowl, not a stock 110 carb. And if you look at the intake, it tapers slightly where the carb flange is, atc90 intake. They can be drilled out larger, but it was hard to blend the passages because of the depth of the intake. That may not be the engine that was in the trike when it was in it's heyday. The engine appears rather stock, but I may be wrong. I would like to see the piston and the cam. Maybe big bore, 110 or 124 with the cooler, but I doubt a stroker.

SWIGIN

01-27-2008, 01:25 PM

i agree about the carb

a 110 carb is fine on a stockish 90 but not a built up one

on my 110 i had to go to a 24mm stock 200x carb and jet it up to get it to run right....and its still 110cc's

edog

01-27-2008, 01:28 PM

Maybe the carb has been opened up:D

SWIGIN

01-27-2008, 01:29 PM

but it dont even look like a 110 carb

i never seen a aftermarket disc brake kit like that...kind of neat

i went with a 200x axle and the hydro 200x disc brkes

edog

01-27-2008, 01:54 PM

but it dont even look like a 110 carb

i never seen a aftermarket disc brake kit like that...kind of neat

i went with a 200x axle and the hydro 200x disc brkes

I just ordered a carb off of ebay that looks just like it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=170150319321&rd=1

It also looks like an aftermarket choke.

Rockrash

01-27-2008, 01:56 PM

this thing kicks major butt, does it run?

ya it runs, just wont idle. It sat in my buddys back yard for 2 years so i was suprised that it started up so easy.

Vealmonkey please preserve the paint scheme. If you want to change the paint, sell the tank and fenders to me at least. I would love to have them restored just the way they are. If you change the paint, you are doing that trike a disservice. Have fun and bring it back the way it was.

that was my plan, I work in a body shop painting cars so the paint will go back to the way it was.

thanks for all the replys.

SWIGIN

01-27-2008, 02:16 PM

I just ordered a carb off of ebay that looks just like it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=170150319321&rd=1

It also looks like an aftermarket choke.

that my freind is a new chinese knock off carb....probaly a ct copy

that choke is a cable operated one like from a 125