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torker
02-07-2008, 09:04 AM
Hey there guys: I guess this thread is more for the technically onclined on this boards, but, if you have this info, please chime in.

Does anyone knows the spring rate for the 85-87R's (ATC / TRX) and the 88-89 TRX's.

The reason I ask is beacause the will fit the TRI-Z, but what I'm needing is a 10% stiffer spring for the Z.
There are 3 different spring rates for the Z:

1RX-22212-00-6W Std Spring….....335 lbs / in (6.0 kg / mm) natural steel color
1RX-22212-10-6W Soft Spring…....307 lbs / in (5.5 kg / mm) green color
1RX-22212-20-6W Hard Spring…...363 lbs / in (6.0 kg / mm) white color

They are known for their color according to the manual and part #'s.
Most of the TRI-Z, if not all came with the Std. spring. I know a lot of the newer Yamaha ATV's run white springs, including the warrior. Could that be the stiffer spring we are needing? I've also seen pink, blue, yellow atc. and I have not found spring rates for those colors. These springs can be used wothout having to revalve the stock shock. I'm pretty sure that with a thicker oil and the correct amount of nitrogen we'll be able to use a spring within a 10-15% rate increase.

If any of you know the Honda's spring rate we may have a cost effective alternative. The rear suspension on both machines are similar but they change greatly in terms of linkage design. And that by itself changes everything, The HONDA springs look to be of a lesser rate or "softer" than The Z's if the spring wire is any indication, but that alone does not determine spring rate.
The only way of knowing is by the real spring rate #'s of the HONDAS. But I have not been able to find these #'s anywhere and I don't have access to a spring rate machine anymore.

Billy, Moshman, Yamahondaman, and the tech crew?
Any takers???

TORKER.

torker
02-09-2008, 09:43 AM
Anyone have anything on this??? :confused: :confused: :confused:

Should it be moved to "D Lair"??

TORKER.

Mosh
02-09-2008, 10:02 AM
I honestly do not know.
All I do Know as far as the Z is concerned, is that a warrior spring,IS stiffer than a stock Z spring.
Maybe you could order a spring from Works or Progressive to fit the warrior Shock,with a stiffer rate even yet.
If it was me,and I had the coin to spend,I would just get a really good aftermarket shock for the Z and be done with it.
A few guys have said it was the best money they ever spent on the Z.

I know for a fact that my Buddy's YFZ 450 With Elka Zero preloads,IS a dream to jump.Even if you flat land it real hard it feels so forgiving.Apples to oranges comparison I know.LOL
They way it appears and feels to me,is that a 250r spring would be softer than the Z spring.

torker
02-09-2008, 07:36 PM
My thoughts exactly.
And if I could spend $800 - 1000.00 on just 1 shock, I would do it in a hurry. Sorry to say that I connot. Oh Well.

TORKER.