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Tri-ZNate
04-29-2008, 10:09 PM
With this bike I've been wanting to go all yellow (yellow plastics, yellow hoses, yellow hubs, yellow yellow yellow) and upgrade the OEM stuff along the way.
So far into the conglameration -
Pro taper ATV High bend Bars
Carlisle Trail Wolf Front Tire
K&N air filter with no box lid
Sprock Cool Head
Ronnie's Stainless bolts
Ronnie's Inline Cooler
Ronnie's Thermostat Delete
38mm PWM bored to a 40.5mm
Maier front and rear fenders
LSR Banshee sprocket hub
All Balls Front and rear Bearings
18" Kenda Klaw MXR rear tires on Banshee Hubs
Hagen's Stator Cover
Hagen's Peg's
SBLT500's Boost Bottle
SBLT500's Shifter
SBLT500's Motor Mounts
Just arrived today -
Progressive front springs
Yellow Silcone Hoses
In the Future -
Sprock's Right Side Case
Sprock's Billet intake
Yellow Seat
Yellow Hubs
Yellow frame
New Yellow Fork Boots (OEM are driving me nuts)
Aluminum front rim (or stripping the anodizing off)
Figured The Z's havent flooded the forum like this since i can remember (Always those High Strung Ugly Green Things or the red things Yamaha guys steal parts of of to make our bikes better) so we might as well drown 'em out.
I will update pics this Thursday or Friday after i get done installing the new springs
Before
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/250sx/101_0005.jpg
Now
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/250sx/tri-z.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/250sx/siliconehoses.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/250sx/Forks.jpg
Do you have spare water pump impellers and cylinder heads handy?
ATC-Eric
04-29-2008, 10:13 PM
I like your idea, good luck! :beer
Tri-ZNate
04-29-2008, 10:15 PM
Do you have spare water pump impellers and cylinder heads handy?
Why yes Edog, did you want an impeller as a Christmas ornament?
And for the record, I think i have seen just as many 250r's seize and have issues as Tri-Zs. A properly maintained machine that is respected will be reliable
Bryan Raffa
04-29-2008, 10:17 PM
whats the problem with the heads Edog? please inform me...:rolleyes:
when you starting this project? I like it ...Yellow and bling;)
Tri-ZNate
04-29-2008, 10:21 PM
whats the problem with the heads Edog? please inform me...:rolleyes:
when you starting this project? I like it ...Yellow and bling;)
its been an on going project. May 18th we are having a poker run so the weekend before hand It'll be stripped down and painted with a hard Automotive clear coat and a close yellow of course till i can get it sent to powder coat. I have only seen one all yellow Z, and it was spray bombed bad
pickleweasel_00
04-29-2008, 11:05 PM
Let us know how you like those progressive springs, I'm gonna get a set for mine, but interesting idea :beer Should look like a Pimp Banana with all the bling :D
chris200x
04-29-2008, 11:08 PM
now it will be too nice to bring down here to go riding....
honda250sx
04-29-2008, 11:13 PM
Dudeness. This shalt be radical! How do you feel about a yellow anodize??? I see that being the sickness on all aluminum parts. Hoses look killer in yellow. I got mine last week and had to do some cutting and fitting with them. Compare to stock and cut to desired. Your gunna love them springs. I got em in my forks for my build. The billet intakes will be at my house soon i hope from sprock. I will be taking care of the anodizing. Good luck with the build man! PS if ya need a hand with getting some stuff powdercoated other than frame and swingarm hit me up. I can help you with that!
chavo80
04-30-2008, 01:28 AM
Let us know how you like those progressive springs, I'm gonna get a set for mine, but interesting idea :beer Should look like a Pimp Banana with all the bling :D
exactly!!!!!^ keep us posted.
Tri-ZNate
04-30-2008, 05:16 AM
Dudeness. This shalt be radical! How do you feel about a yellow anodize??? I see that being the sickness on all aluminum parts. Hoses look killer in yellow. I got mine last week and had to do some cutting and fitting with them. Compare to stock and cut to desired. Your gunna love them springs. I got em in my forks for my build. The billet intakes will be at my house soon i hope from sprock. I will be taking care of the anodizing. Good luck with the build man! PS if ya need a hand with getting some stuff powdercoated other than frame and swingarm hit me up. I can help you with that!
I'll keep that in mind, thanks for the offer. As for anodizing, I would have gotten everything in yellow if Sprock had that color as an option. BUT the bike will need Bling to offset the Yella:Bounce
honda250sx
04-30-2008, 08:38 AM
I got all my stuff in just reg aluminum. Then anodize it. No big dealio
Tri-ZNate
04-30-2008, 08:59 AM
Yeah thats true. Anywhere inparticular you know of for anodizing?
brapp
04-30-2008, 09:25 AM
hell get distilled water and abatery charger and what ever color die you want and brign the parts over we can anodize them.
hell get distilled water and abatery charger and what ever color die you want and brign the parts over we can anodize them.
wtf:lol: :crazy:
Tri-ZNate
04-30-2008, 09:45 AM
hell get distilled water and abatery charger and what ever color die you want and brign the parts over we can anodize them.
I'll just send them out. its O.K.
chris200x
04-30-2008, 09:51 AM
I'll just send them out. its O.K.
LMFAO!!!! your learning my young jedi! :lol: :postwhore
brapp
04-30-2008, 09:56 AM
i am dead serious tough
allanidizing is is dyed eltrolisis ya know its simple
chris200x
04-30-2008, 10:10 AM
Some how I can picture capt'n cobble electricuting himself down the basement.. :eek: :lol: :postwhore
any how i cant wait to c the bike with all the bling.
i am dead serious tough
allanidizing is is dyed eltrolisis ya know its simpleits so easy even a cave man can do it
Kintore
04-30-2008, 10:19 AM
Project Big Bird is all set eh? hahahaha
Givr the beans nate, see ya soon good buddy!
brapp
04-30-2008, 10:32 AM
hey nate i assume it isnt ever gonan se coal again? man o man it woudl look liek a yellow jacket if it did lol
chris200x
04-30-2008, 10:45 AM
hey nate i assume it isnt ever gonan se coal again? man o man it woudl look liek a yellow jacket if it did lol
certainly not with those 18's on there.. :eek:
Tri-ZNate
04-30-2008, 11:01 AM
certainly not with those 18's on there.. :eek:
the 18" would like coal, not freakin boulders that bend ATVs to their motor mounts
It may see coal, who knows. I just want to get my yellow plastics from Mrs. mosh. If you see it in person the things that really stick out are the shrouds and fork boots (they are old and need some love). It should have everything except the side cover by TF'08.
Kintore, you little nadian, I've been looking for a project name and I think Big Bird and Casper are gonna roll together at Tf :lol:
Chris, yes knowledge comes with time :beer
Kintore
04-30-2008, 11:08 AM
hahah sounds good buddy,
cough on the track cough
brapp
04-30-2008, 11:33 AM
ohhh ohh i wanna roll too you guys heaaayyyyy dont leave a brothe r out lol
Kintore
04-30-2008, 11:36 AM
Need a cartoon orienteted bike first lmao
honda250sx
04-30-2008, 02:03 PM
Yeah I got a good place locally. You seen my parts that i had done. Sprocks head and what not.
brapp
04-30-2008, 08:41 PM
will frenkinstein work? i for my 450?
Tri-ZNate
04-30-2008, 08:53 PM
I would call it Godzilla before I called it Frankenstein
Jeff - I'll have to think about anodizing, I want lots of shiny parts to offset the Yella
I also updated the "Before" pic to one taken Before i owned it with the old plastics and no shiny parts. Actually looks very clean for an original machine.
honda250sx
04-30-2008, 09:47 PM
Either way nate i am going to have a bunch more stuff done and if you want in on doing it all at once thats cool. Can't wait to see the start of the build. Whats your opinion on the hoses?
chris200x
05-01-2008, 12:26 AM
I would call it Godzilla before I called it Frankenstein
Jeff - I'll have to think about anodizing, I want lots of shiny parts to offset the Yella
I also updated the "Before" pic to one taken Before i owned it with the old plastics and no shiny parts. Actually looks very clean for an original machine.
Thats one machine "your buddy" actually took care of and didnt ride much. You got lucky on that buy.
Can't wait to see it all finished up bud. Maybe We'll see it all ready to go at next year's Patuckey ride (but your more than welcome to tear it up down here anytime! :naughty: )... Gazoo say's he'll bring the hammer! :lol: :w00t:
Tri-ZNate
05-01-2008, 05:22 AM
Whats your opinion on the hoses?
I'll let you know tonight. I have to go into work for a few hours, then have to do some running around before i can throw them on. Should be a good day:beer
DeePa
05-17-2008, 12:05 PM
were gonna have to line em up...
Tri-ZNate
05-17-2008, 04:41 PM
were gonna have to line em up...
When you come to pennsyltucky one of these days to pic up this damn bassani pipe we'll line 'em
I put the clip back to the center position to clean out the mid range a bit more yesterday, Revs much quicker without the unneeded fuel going to it, find out how much of a difference it makes at tomorrow's poker run. I hate to say it but after riding the X then jumping on the Z I find I miss the torque of the X :crazy:. I'll throw some pics up, I have them taken just never remember to load 'em up.
Tri-ZNate
12-14-2008, 12:34 AM
Well this has obviously taken some time but thats fine, saved me from ripping the engine out 2x to install sprocks goodies.
Anyway here is a pic with all the yellow plastics and seat. Unfortunately it only stayed that way for about 10 minutes till I ripped it down. Still have to disconnect the swingarm, front end, unbolt gas tank, and then engine comes out.
I recieved the bassani, sandblasted the silencer and half the pipe. Going to finish up the exhaust tomorrow then paint or figure out the WD-40 method to give the pipe a burnt orange look
Oh and BTW, I'm gonna love taking a sled hammer to that $#@*^%! DG
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/250sx/Dec12_0001.jpg?t=1229229415
Tri-Z Pilot
12-14-2008, 12:42 AM
Yea she's gettin quite yeller. What are you goin for with wheels? Chromies?
honda250sx
12-14-2008, 12:46 AM
Nate whats the run down. What are we looking at for this bad boy? Need any powdercoat work done? I have help a BROTHER out!
Tri-ZNate
12-14-2008, 12:47 AM
I need to either buy an '86 front wheel or take the time and strip the front one of its gold. The rears need to be cleaned up as they are an ITP or douglas I believe. Alot of things i need to figure out still but it'll all be worked out in time.
Tri-Z Pilot
12-14-2008, 12:58 AM
You gonna have that out for next month, or just bringin the Big Red and the 350x?
Tri-ZNate
12-14-2008, 12:59 AM
just the big red as of right now. 350x has a crack in the frame, and has gotten to the point where it needs another frame. That is on the back burner.
ATC-Eric
12-14-2008, 01:13 AM
Thats lookin really cool, Love the airbox cover.
Hell yeah dude.
honda250sx
12-14-2008, 01:27 AM
Save yourself some time and get some LYE and strip the wheel yourself at home. F sanding that thing. LYE will will strip it. If not ship the wheel to me and I will get it done for ya.
Tri-ZNate
12-14-2008, 01:02 PM
We make bio-diesel so I have lots of sodium hydroxide at my disposal. What all do i need to do to strip it?
Tri-ZNate
12-14-2008, 10:39 PM
(yawn) Got in a few minutes ago from blasting. Missed a few small spot but I'll hit them tomorrow, too cold for me to care about getting it all done in one night :rolleyes:. Anyway just some bare metal pics from the cell phone. I didnt realize how much stuff was brazed onto these exhausts (I figured it was all weld)
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/250sx/Dec14_0001.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/250sx/Dec14_0002.jpg
brapp
12-15-2008, 10:00 AM
nate are you referign to th3 works finish with the orangish coloron the xhaust? if so if you sand blast it it will just flash rust and look horrible
take it and have it jet coated or chromed that woudl be the bnicest way to keep it lookign good
Tri-ZNate
12-15-2008, 11:02 PM
na I did some research and what it is, is you take WD-40 and a Brillo pad to the exhaust after every ride I guess. It gives it a burnt look. It a PITA, and the exhaust is all done anyway, its curing as I type
oscarmayer
12-15-2008, 11:29 PM
nate, I knwo what your talking about. it doesn't work on normal steel.
it only works on stainless. i knw cause We did it to our drag headers and the machine shops all do it to their dyno headers for 2 reasons. 1-looks, and 2- helps them last longer w/o rust spots from where people touch the metal. but it must be stainless steel to work. normal steel comes out lookign like a brown rustish look and looks ban. your better off getting it either ceramic heat treated or chromed. it's your call. you can try it if your determined, but I can assure you, it won't be pretty and once you do it, it'll never take any paint or creatments as the oil will cook into the poors and nothign will ever stick to it again. so it's all or nothing. Me, I'd get it ceramic coated withthe black coating as the black handles the heat better and lasts a lot longer time than the polished look.
brapp
12-15-2008, 11:49 PM
that or untouched metal but as soon as you sabdbast it it creates oilpockets where the finish will not cook evenly you willhave to us ea verry verry verry fine liek walnut shell or soda blastit or something liek that if you wan ti tot be fine enough to get the burnt nickel color
Tri-ZNate
01-07-2009, 05:48 PM
Bird Birdie is getting some needed bling for the rear. I was trying to find parts to piece the rear together for my +8 swingarm so I didnt have to constantly swap parts. Then I found this setup and for a price that was plenty reasonable. The Axle, hubs, brake and sprocket hubs are $760
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120357120991&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=002
http://i17.ebayimg.com/08/i/001/27/aa/6944_1.JPG
honda250sx
01-07-2009, 11:28 PM
Ouch. thats SICK!
Wow.
Nice snag Nate!!
Tri-ZNate
01-08-2009, 12:00 AM
It Should do th job, and if anyhting needs some elbow grease I have a new container of "Mothers" that should do the job :D
Tri-ZNate
01-14-2009, 04:08 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/250sx/Jan14_0003.jpg
Its here :D
userj8670
01-14-2009, 08:19 PM
thats pure sexy!
honda250sx
01-14-2009, 11:17 PM
Nate thats NAZTY!!!!
Send to GKING polish that mofo!!!
Tri-ZNate
01-19-2009, 01:48 AM
Levers came. If I had my camera on me and it wasnt so late I'd take a pic but this is close enough
http://i17.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/25/1e/28f0_1.JPG
honda250sx
01-19-2009, 12:25 PM
Who did you buy these from? What master are you using?
Tri-ZNate
01-19-2009, 01:22 PM
atvgalaxy on ebay. Says on the package they are for banshee, yfz, blaster, raptor ect so I'm hoping they work for the Z
I'm using the stock Z master
honda250sx
01-19-2009, 02:31 PM
You will need a YFZ master most likely. This is what I ran into with my levers. What did you pay? WHY DID YOU NOT BUY REFURBS FROM ASVINVENTIONS !
CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP!!!
cragster
01-19-2009, 02:37 PM
I here you can use some Easy Off Oven Cleaner to get the gold off the wheels. I am going to try it on my triz front wheel as well. If i end up trying it before you ill let you know how well it worked/didnt work.
nice project, i wish i coulda got that DG pipe off ya though
Tri-ZNate
01-19-2009, 03:58 PM
You will need a YFZ master most likely. This is what I ran into with my levers. What did you pay? WHY DID YOU NOT BUY REFURBS FROM ASVINVENTIONS !
CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP!!!
The cost of both levers and the backing peice were about the same cost/ The economy is treating me well so I dont care. Oh and my frame is done :naughty:
honda250sx
01-19-2009, 04:09 PM
You my friend are the first person to say that the economy is treating you well.
Glad the frame is done. Start shooting pictures!
brapp
01-19-2009, 06:03 PM
wow man i am glad i gave it to someoen who is gonan apreciate it man. thign is gonanbe downright awesome. and you my friend have really surpassed what i expected of you form this bike.
Tri-ZNate
01-19-2009, 09:48 PM
You my friend are the first person to say that the economy is treating you well.
As long as people buy Charmin and Bounty I'll have a job.
I'll probably pick up the frame friday.
honda250sx
01-19-2009, 09:50 PM
I'll take a dump for you tonight. LOL
GET IT RAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Tri-ZNate
01-19-2009, 10:02 PM
I'll take a dump for you tonight. LOL
GET IT RAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
See? thats all i ask :w00t:
cragster
01-19-2009, 11:48 PM
See? thats all i ask :w00t:
hey bud i just supported too =]
hah
Tri-Z Pilot
01-20-2009, 03:21 AM
Did you say +8 swinger? What the hell are you puttin in this thing?:lol: You gonna go for a Ronnie hillshooter look?
Your business is about the same kind deal as mine (beer distributor here). No matter how bad the economy is, people are gonna crap and drink.
Tri-ZNate
01-20-2009, 02:02 PM
Parts keep showin up at my place. The UPS guy was nice enough to drop this off from the O.H.I.O region
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/250sx/Jan20_0001.jpg
I think the only parts i still need is my swingarm, big bore, clutch cover from sprocky, and a banshee rear master rezzy.
I'm half tempted to take the wire brush wheel on my grinder to the front wheel. Then just wet sand up to like 2000 grit
honda250sx
01-20-2009, 03:17 PM
Any anodize place can strip it in a matter of seconds. Then box it up to GKING Polishing and get it back and be happy you didnt waste your life polishing it for hours on end.
Tri-ZNate
01-20-2009, 03:21 PM
here google google google, come here search bar
brapp
01-20-2009, 03:56 PM
hey nate you said u wwant protaper high bend atv bars? i have a set of tag fat bars you can take a look at when your her ei have ni intrest in them thie rtoo high for my liking i liek low and mean stance.
Tri-ZNate
01-20-2009, 05:58 PM
The Z already has atv high bend, but thanks anyway
brapp
01-20-2009, 06:30 PM
the tweaked ones i gave you a while back?
Kintore
01-20-2009, 09:19 PM
Hell yah dude, glad to see big bird is still kickin around!!!
Ready to ride the piss outa it at TF? ready for a few brewskys?
mm mmmm gwen stafani Its all good Nate!
bahaha
Tri-ZNate
01-21-2009, 08:53 AM
Hell yah dude, glad to see big bird is still kickin around!!!
Ready to ride the piss outa it at TF? ready for a few brewskys?
mm mmmm gwen stafani Its all good Nate!
bahaha
lmao Amen bra. Brews and Gwen sounds gooooood.
And Josh, no they are nice PT high bends :D. Ebay has killer deals
Tri-ZNate
01-22-2009, 06:53 PM
I guess I'll ramble a bit so it gets Bumped. Gonna pick the frame up tomorrow and reassemble the front end, add the ASV stuff then all I'm waiting for is Sprock :w00t:
brapp
01-22-2009, 06:56 PM
sounds leik tis gonanbe killer well have to line em up at lawton someday
Tri-ZNate
01-23-2009, 07:00 PM
First off to all Tri-z owners DO NOT BUY THIS GRAB BAR
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fse arch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37.l1313%26sati tle%3D310114175642%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1&item=310114175642&viewitem=
Supposed to be brand new (mine was pitted and scratched up) only 3 of the 4 bolt holes lined up. And the thing that really got me pissed off, int he pic you'll notice behind the number plate holder there are 2 spacers welded on. I had to GRIND off about 1/4" on each one in order to get them to mount up (there was NO way they could have fit on the inside of the frame like stock). Horrible quality and I'm hoping to atleast get them to revise the design.
On a Happy note I got the frame today, mounted the front end and plastics just to see how it looked. Frame matches close but my camera isnt that good on indoor pictures.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/250sx/Jan23_0001.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/250sx/Jan23_0002.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/250sx/Jan23_0004.jpg
chris200x
01-23-2009, 07:18 PM
Lookin good Nate! Is that the same grab bar I had on my Z? If it is,, Mine went right on no problems....
Tri-ZNate
01-23-2009, 07:20 PM
Lookin good Nate! Is that the same grab bar I had on my Z? If it is,, Mine went right on no problems....
I dont know Chris, its been a while since you had a Z :wondering
And also The ASV levers went right on, just couldnt use the dust cover with my Acerbis things
chris200x
01-23-2009, 07:24 PM
I believe it is bud.. http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/899884/
I remember now,, I had no problems with that at all!
Tri-ZNate
01-23-2009, 07:28 PM
Lookin good Nate! Is that the same grab bar I had on my Z? If it is,, Mine went right on no problems....
You are correct sir
So go to hell :lol:. Seriously, I sent them a message asking If i recieved the correct one. it wouldnt line up or fit on the inside or outside of the frame. It was all sorts of retarded. I even flipped it to see if I had it positioned wrong or something
chris200x
01-23-2009, 07:30 PM
ever think it is the installer and not the product! LMAO!!!
I think I had more trouble mounting my PRM on my X than I had mounting that. I remeber thinking to myself, "man that was easy!" hehehe
Tri-ZNate
01-23-2009, 07:35 PM
ever think it is the installer and not the product! LMAO!!!
That went through my head about 10 minutes before i took the grinder to it. I even showed my dad since he was there. He made the comment "Yep looks like they screwed that up, its shinier than the one you took off though". "Yeah thanks for the help dad"
honda250sx
01-23-2009, 09:28 PM
Should have bought a nice PRM mine bolted up by itself. I opened the box and it grew hands grabbed bolts and a 6mm allen wrench and installed its self.
Dude you must powder or polish them fork legs...
Frame powder or paint?
Tri-ZNate
01-23-2009, 09:54 PM
Dude you must powder or polish them fork legs...
Yeah . . . I know. I'd rather polish, dont care for black :eek:
brapp
01-23-2009, 11:58 PM
do it up turbo negro!!!!
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