Bassani & Bills pipe for 250r QUESTIONS

[Yamatrike400]

Alright so i have a chance to get either a Bassani or Bills pipe for my 81 250r. I would like to know who has one/ has had experience with them, and how each one performs. Is one specifically for low end? Top end? Really need help on this. Thanks in advance. :beer

Here are the 2 pipes:
these should work.
Bills
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r52/squirrellrancher/82013.jpg
Bassani
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r52/squirrellrancher/DSC04555.jpg

[Yamatrike400]

Got the pics in..

[Tri-ZNate]

Grab them both if you can and run the bassani. That bills is too nice and too rare to beat on.

[Yamatrike400]

I wish i could get them both but i am really short on cash and am trading a pipe i have for one of those...i just want to know which one would be better.

[NINJA]

Get the Bassani.

[Yamatrike400]

Any reason why? how do they perform? thanks.

[NINJA]

The reason why is because I had one on my 82R and the fitment was great and so was the quality. Bassani really knew what he was doing with his tuned pipes. As far as performance goes, well I'm not sure the difference it makes on a stock motor. On a motor with a carb from an 86R and some slight porting, the pipe was the final piece to the puzzle to make her rip.

[Yamatrike400]

Yeah i have a 34 mikuni (86R has a 34 also i believe?) Reeds, and the topend is off and im going to clean up the ports. Getting a Wiseco piston. Thanks for the help.

[3Razors]

I'd go with the Bassani also..they were the shiz for atc's as far as pipes go.

[Yamatrike400]

Thanks for the input! I think ill go with the bassani then.I beat the hell outa my trikes so i dont want to wreck a good rare bills pipe..

[88 Turbo Coupe]

I have both, But I like the Mugen ATC pipe the best on my 300r. BTW there are plenty of them around-NEW. And there pretty cheap too.

[Yamatrike400]

Yeah i'd get a Mugen if i had the money, but i got a Answer full exhaust for $10.50 on ebay a few weeks ago, but it turned out it was for a 83/84, so im just trading the guy for a different pipe setup.

[88 Turbo Coupe]

Sudco had them a short while ago for like 50 bucks NEW. Where else are you gunna find a new pipe for that money. How much is the Bassani your looking at??

[Blown 331]

Sudco had them a short while ago for like 50 bucks NEW. Where else are you gunna find a new pipe for that money. How much is the Bassani your looking at??

Do you have a link to this and is a mugen pipe still available? Anyone have a link?

[Yamatrike400]

All the 50$ ones are GONE. Its sad, but true.Also if you get a mugen you need a DG silencer which can cost a pretty penny. Im trading the guy a pipe for the bassani. Otherwise he wanted 100$

[Blown 331]

All the 50$ ones are GONE. Its sad, but true.Also if you get a mugen you need a DG silencer which can cost a pretty penny. Im trading the guy a pipe for the bassani. Otherwise he wanted 100$

Heres the $50 one.
http://www.sudco.com/chamber.html

Is it just a stock one? Looks like. And they also have the 83/84 carb boot on close out and thats just stock.

So what is up with the Mugen pipe? Are they available? I cant find anything on them.

[Yamatrike400]

That is a Mugen pipe. Last i heard they were out of them.There is one on ebay right now too.

[Blown 331]

That is a Mugen pipe. Last i heard they were out of them.There is one on ebay right now too.

Oh, the sudco one is the mugen pipe? I thought it looked stock. I have never seen an aftermarket 2 stroke pipe that utilizes the stock gaurds. Every see one for an 84?

[Blown 331]

That is a Mugen pipe. Last i heard they were out of them.There is one on ebay right now too.

Oh, the sudco one is the mugen pipe? I thought it looked stock. I have never seen an aftermarket 2 stroke pipe that utilizes the stock gaurds. Every see one for an 84?

[Yamatrike400]

Yeah the Mugen uses stock guards. And have i seen a mugen for the 84? No i havent.

[88 Turbo Coupe]

I bought 2 Mugen pipes about a year ago from Sudco. 50 bucks each. One just ended on Ebay for 75. And yes you can use the stock guards. Nice fitting pipe.

[Daddio]

The inlet side of the mugen pipe is bigger than stock so you will probably need the bushing that goes with it so you can run it on the stock flange.

[88 Turbo Coupe]

Screw the bushing. Just buy a used cr flange off ebay cheap. Fits like a glove.

[Daddio]

What year cr?

[Yamatrike400]

Turbo coupe, just wondering, how do the bills and bassani perform?

[Daddio]

1upfront has a bassani on his 83 trail 250r and it kicks butt. He beat everyone he raced at TF08 except tecatz's t3. He even beat sandpuppi's 600x. I don't know about the Bills .

[Yamatrike400]

What else is done to that R? thanks

[1upfront]

It has some minor mods it's not my dragbike where talking about ,36mm pwk clean up port, drag tires, boyessen reeds, cylinders on it's last bore and bassani pipe.

[Yamatrike400]

Anyone have an idea as to how much i can shave the head before i have to run higher octane gas?

[Daddio]

Send a pm to flotek a member here on 3ww he made special jigs to cut 300r and stock 81-84 heads and he can tell how much to cut without requiring racing fuel.
Heres a link to his website
http://flotekperformance.com/home

[JethrowMan]

how much dose the guy want for the bills pipe?

[88 Turbo Coupe]

What year cr?

1981,2,3 cr

[BOB MARLIN]

When I got my 81r a few months back it had a Bassani pipe and a 36mm mikuni
on it. It was so fast it was scary. Low end sucked,but when it came on the pipe-hold on. I could never get it to run well right off idle,It had a bad bog or flat spot when you first gave it gas. I just think the 36mm was to big for it. I have now put
a stock pipe and carb back on, it runs smooth and starts easy with no flat spots but it is way,way slower.

[Yamatrike400]

Yah i know what you mean i had a 36 on mine too and there was a huge flatspot off idle. I put a 34 on it and its near perfect. And im not sure how much he wants for the bills.

Also, any pics of your R bob?

[BOB MARLIN]

This is a before and after.

[Yamatrike400]

Very cool. I had never seen pics of yours, i really like it. Has an awesome oldschool look. Hope i can get mine looking good too.