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Autophysn
10-08-2008, 01:47 AM
The conversation at work during a smoke break ended up on performance, like always. :beer
Anyhow, my co-worker use to race go karts and all the engines where certified to a standard. So every little adjustment and quirk made a big difference.
He brought up that he use to "index" the spark plug so that the electrode arm does not interfere with the natural air flow in and out of the combustion chamber.
Point being, he would use washers to make sure that when the plug is tightened, it would be in the position he wanted. Arm of the electrode providing as minimal resistance to the intake and exhaust flow as possible.
Not sure if this helps,
but according to him, it really helps with much easier starting, smoother running and overall economy with a small amount of improvement in the engines responce to throttle.
Just wondering if it would be worth the effort:wondering
greythorn3
10-08-2008, 02:31 AM
wow sounds like a real nut job. im sure gains would be minimal if any.
Ray
Yamahondaman
10-08-2008, 10:16 AM
i have done it on many motors .. i used to make .02-.08 thick billet washers.. aim the open part of the electrode towards the exhaust
and there you have it... from the master himself... now im off to index the plugs on my truck!
leokendall
10-08-2008, 10:23 AM
raising the plug up a lil bit, wouldn't that lower the compression a lil bit to?
atc vending guy
10-08-2008, 11:17 AM
raising the plug up a lil bit, wouldn't that lower the compression a lil bit to?
not if you still had it sealed tight.the depth of the plug doesnt change compression.
leokendall
10-08-2008, 11:22 AM
i didn't think it did but sometime i hears people shaving of a lil tad bit from there cylinder heads to gain a lil more psi. i just thought depending on how much was shaved wouldn't be much diffs,.
WIkid500
10-08-2008, 11:47 AM
Yep heard of it. Another tick it to trim the arm off so you don't have the arm in the way. The spark jumps to the side f the plug instead. Does it work? idk
brapp
10-08-2008, 01:01 PM
well the principal behind it is more torwards burnign the fuel and air more efficantly and consistantly and the .02 inch thick washer is so minimal its more to get the electrode arm in the right position i mean your talkign the thicknes sof a piece of paperor lessdependign how much you wanan tighten it down to get the right position it really helps with alcahol and nitro mixes more than anythign but in some motors in out trikes and quads it does help even if it is only a 1/32 of a hp but you do 32 of those little tweaks thats a fullhorsepower you just picked up.
topless
10-08-2008, 01:07 PM
I remember reading an article about a NASCAR engine builder. They run spec motors and do things that seem like overkill, including honing to fit the lifter bores, match weighing push rods and indexing the spark plugs.
mustangmachanic
10-12-2008, 10:03 AM
yes the are all kind of tricks to squeeze a lil rpm and power out of a motor
Gag_Halfront
10-12-2008, 11:50 PM
I don't think I'd really care to go through the trouble for .1hp. Now if it would keep them from fouling, I'd be all over it.
Autophysn
10-13-2008, 12:58 AM
Appreciate the response
Verified his point. I may try it, only if I am really really bored!
Erics350x
10-13-2008, 01:05 AM
or you could spend $3.00 extra on a splitfire or similar plug
Autophysn
10-13-2008, 01:23 AM
dude, brings up another topic, have you had good results with a more fancy plug?
Gag_Halfront
10-13-2008, 08:17 AM
I can tell you that my RX7 required these fancy-pants plugs with four electrodes. It was like "uber-splitfire" or something.
Damned thing wouldn't run with anything else.
brapp
10-13-2008, 04:53 PM
i ran the same split fire plug in my sx for abotu 8 years and never fouled but i alran ran the balls of fit too.
The Goat
10-13-2008, 06:02 PM
I put splitfire plugs in my xb...I noticed a negligible increase in performance...less than .2 shaved off my 0-60...but I've also noticed a decreased in gas mileage...not so negligible.
Autophysn
10-13-2008, 08:35 PM
Yeah, thr RX7 motor is touchy, any rotary is
But I have had bad luck with those fancy smanshy plugs in cars before, and never bothered with them again.
I can see them helping in a 4stroke trike, but what about the 2 strokes?
POS 250sx
10-13-2008, 11:15 PM
You guys mean like the bosch quad plug thing? I usually get the one with honda written on the box, next tune up should i try a fancy one? and whats best? the quad dual or triple? im kinda liking the idea of TRIple for my TRIke haha.
carscomefirst
10-13-2008, 11:20 PM
You guys mean like the bosch quad plug thing? I usually get the one with honda written on the box, next tune up should i try a fancy one? and whats best? the quad dual or triple? im kinda liking the idea of TRIple for my TRIke haha.
Bosh+4 is the four strap plug.
Honda on box=NGK + dealer mark up
Autophysn
10-13-2008, 11:22 PM
hahahahaha yeah, Maybe I will do the same, three wheels, three strap plug!
How can you go wrong!
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