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gravelyman
11-01-2008, 03:29 AM
This is from the hal turner show

I have confirmed that the United States federal government will financially collapse "before summer 2009."

Long time listeners to my radio show will recall that as early as September 5, 2007, over one year ago, I warned my audience on the air, that this was coming.

I announced during that same radio show that the US government was secretly minting new currency, THE AMERO and revealed a plot to intentionally bankrupt the United States to force integration with Canada and Mexico. Once merged, the US Canada and Mexico would be a new entity called the North American Union. (You may listen to an archive of that show, from over a year ago, by clicking HERE)

According to a Bulletin issued out of Cannes, France, the collapse will come "before summer 2009" because the U.S. can no longer make payments on its national debt.

According to "Lettre Confidentielle de LEAP/E2020" the US economy, now in deep recession, will collapse. The resulting lack of tax revenues will make it impossible for the federal government to pay even the interest on its ten trillion dollar national debt.

On October 16, 2008, the "Global-Europe Anticipation Bulletin" told its subscribers that the present U.S. Dollar will be demonetized and a new currency imposed. "Old dollars" will be devalued by ninety percent (90%)

When the collapse occurs, countries around the world will immediately stop accepting our money. That means imports will dry up very quickly -- including food and oil imports.

Lets talk oil first

The United States uses 18 million barrels of oil each day. We produce 5 million barrels a day of our own oil and import 13 million barrels a day from around the world.

Right now, our strategic petroleum reserve has 701 million barrels of oil in storage. When the world stops accepting our currency and stops shipping oil to us, we will have to draw down on the strategic petroleum reserve by 13 million barrels per day. We will run out of oil in 59 days.

No oil means no gasoline for cars; no diesel fuel for trucks.

Everything in this nation, except electricity and natural gas, is transported by truck. No diesel fuel means no products being shipped. . . . . including food.

Now lets talk food

After our oil reserves run out in 59 days, trucks will have no fuel. No fuel means no food gets delivered anywhere.

Here in the New York City area, our supermarkets have about three days worth of food in stock. They must get deliveries almost every day to feed the population.

So . . . . . the oil reserves run out in 59 days, the supermarkets are empty 3 days later. What do you think is going to happen?

Complete Social Collapse and anarchy

The cities will disintegrate into complete chaos first. Roving bands of savages will break into homes looking to eat. If you cannot protect yourself, they will take your food.

Once the cities are emptied of food, the savages will come to the suburbs. Small local police departments will be instantly overwhelmed. Calling 911 will be useless.

If folks in the suburbs cannot protect themselves, the savages will take their food too.

Ultimately, people will start killing each other for food.

No Government money means no welfare checks, no food stamps.

When this collapse happens because the government is totally broke, the welfare checks will stop. Almost immediately thereafter, civil unrest will erupt and we know who will be doing that. . . . don't we?

Now you know why Barak Obama is being pushed so hard for President. The powers-that-be know what's coming and they want a black man in the White House with the hope he can control "his" people. It won't work. They'll just call him an Uncle Tom or an OREO cookie and then go on their merry way to rape, rob, pillage, burn and kill.

In fact, to prove I'm right about the Obama situation, check out what VP candidate Senator Joe Biden said this past weekend. Biden 'guaranteed" that Barak Obama "will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions." Telling us all that we're going to lose 90% of the value of our life savings sure will be unpopular.

I wonder if the Secret Service agents who lose their life savings too, will bother protecting Obama from assassination; or might they kill him themselves? After all, the Zapruder film proves the secret service agent driving John F. Kennedy in Dallas, turned around and shot him in the head. That's why his wife, Jacqueline Kennedy, tried climbing out of the back of the limo after it happened! She saw who shot her husband. It happened once, it can happen again!

What to do right now

1) If you live in a city, make plans to get out when all hell breaks loose. Arrange a place to stay with relatives or friends far away from the city because the cities will be deadly.

2) Start storing food. Don't wait. You have less than 6 months before the *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited* hits the fan. Buy canned foods because they stay fresh a long time. Buy SEVERAL 50 lb bags of rice, SEVERAL 50 lb bags of oatmeal and store them. Make sure you have lots of flour and yeast to bake your own bread. Have supplies of sugar, salt and the like. Buy powedered milk that can be mixed with water to create real milk. Refill your propane tank for your grill and maybe get some spare tanks. Do not store propane inside your house because it can explode.

3) This Christmas, forget buying presents; buy a gun or two and ammunition. Ideally you should have one handgun for each older teenager/adult in your home. You should also have at least one 12 gauge shotgun and one hunting rifle such as a .308 or 30-30. Teach everyone in your family how to use them. Make certain your children understand these are not toys and that in apartment buildings and condos, bullets can go through walls and kill innocent people. We don;t want that so make sure you teach your kids well. You're going to need guns to fend off the savages that come to steal your food. You may also need a rifle to hunt for food yourself.

4) Buy a gravity-fed water filter so you have clean water for drinking and cooking.

5) Stock up on any prescription drugs you MUST have to live.

6) If you have never hunted for food and don't know how to gut, clean and prepare freshly killed animals, LEARN. Get a couple books and LEARN.

7) Start talking to your neighbors about what's coming. Since the police will be totally overwhelmed, form local neighborhood defense groups. Get CB radios or Family Radio Service radios so you and your neighbors can call each other for help immediately. If the bad guys come, call out the whole neighborhood and use all deliberate force to repel the invaders. Don't be afraid to shoot and kill. The savages won't be afraid to do it to you!

Folks, this is the absolute worst news I have ever delivered to my readers. I shudder at what's coming. If we hope for the best but also plan for the worst, we might. . . . . just might. . . . get through this alive.

Please spread the word to prepare for this coming disaster. Europeans are already planning for it.

Final analysis

How we got to this point is simple: The United States federal government and in particular, the Congress, systematically and deliberately overspent our nation into oblivion. Our own government wrecked our nation.

In order that WE THE PEOPLE can bring justice to our elected officials, I am publishing the private home addresses of all members of the United States House of Representatives and the United States Senate.

Under our Constitution, they hold the purse strings. They are the only branch of government that can tax, spend or incur debt. Sure, they blame Presidents - that's politics. But the Constitution makes clear that congress and ONLY congress deals with money.

If you would like to know where your U.S. congressman and U.S. senators live so that you can "pay them a visit" after they devalue your life savings by 90%, I will provide their home address to you.

To get the home addresses of your congressman and senators, send an e-mail to:
wheretheylive@optonline.net and I will tell you how to get the info.

super90
11-01-2008, 03:55 AM
So everything hal turner says MUST be true? :confused:

gravelyman
11-01-2008, 04:05 AM
no but if you believe just 1% of his blah blah blah it is kinda scary

super90
11-01-2008, 04:12 AM
Yeah thats the thing. I dont believe all of the hype, but there def. is some truth behind it. Frankly, I'm SICK of all this political B.S going on right now. Once the most powerful country in the world, now just a collapsing wasteland. Amsterdam is calling! :lol:

ditchmud
11-01-2008, 12:40 PM
I can say only this " A country boy can survive" (Hank Williams Jr.)

cybrman
11-01-2008, 01:11 PM
Nothing better to do than talk doomsday?
I admit I have never heard of Hal Turner before now. The first thing I come across is that his radio show ended July 30th 2008 and the website was shutdown August 18th 2008.
In my opinion this is a bunch of baloney!
I'll make a prediction.....Someday the world will end for each of us, the day we die.

hancadam
11-01-2008, 01:52 PM
I honestly do think something big is coming. I personally think Hal Turner is a little of the deep end, but our country is very polarized. I think our biggest threats though are Russia and China. With our country distracted by our own internal bickering, we really need to watch the commies.

gravelyman
11-01-2008, 01:53 PM
it might be a bunch of baloney but hypothetically speaking if this scenario were to happen it would really suck

cybrman
11-01-2008, 03:41 PM
I think the chances of something "big" happening go up considerably if we elect Obama. I wouldn't be surprised if he was king of the same kind of sleeper cells that carried out 9/11. And all these lambs are lining up behind him. How quickly they forget that there are factions that would love to see all of us dead.
In my eyes there are only two choices, go after them or wait for them to come after us. (Kill or be killed)
McCain will at least keep our security in mind, while Obama will try to pull out most of them, leaving us more at risk.
The real question is when do we need to kiss and makeup? What I mean is at some point maybe hundreds of years from now, our enemies will have the technology to destroy us as we do them today. At that point are they so resentful of our dominance and repression of their ancestors do they simply set it off?
Do we try and make peace now rather than backpedal and beg in the future? Or do we continue to try and dominate and attempt to keep the "Big gun" out of their hands? I don't think we can succeed at the latter so at what point do we flip-flop and try and kiss and makeup?
Think of any bully you ever knew, at some point they got payback and usually overwhelmingly so. This is the part that scares me the most. We continue to paint the bullseye on our back. I can still picture the news reels of young Palestinian children celebrating the events of 9/11 as if it were a football game.

The fact is not one of us can predict the future. Our actions will paint the picture for us. Why does it have to be so filled with hate and animosity? Thats where we have to focus, how can we really arrive at world peace?

Nick_R_23
11-01-2008, 04:03 PM
Lets talk oil first

The United States uses 18 million barrels of oil each day. We produce 5 million barrels a day of our own oil and import 13 million barrels a day from around the world.

Right now, our strategic petroleum reserve has 701 million barrels of oil in storage. When the world stops accepting our currency and stops shipping oil to us, we will have to draw down on the strategic petroleum reserve by 13 million barrels per day. We will run out of oil in 59 days.

No oil means no gasoline for cars; no diesel fuel for trucks.

Everything in this nation, except electricity and natural gas, is transported by truck. No diesel fuel means no products being shipped. . . . . including food.

Now lets talk food

After our oil reserves run out in 59 days, trucks will have no fuel. No fuel means no food gets delivered anywhere.


All this talk about us running out of oil is a bunch of bull sh1t. If the United States' own oil reserve would run out in 59 days, then how come we've been importing oil from the middle east for how many YEARS??? Cars have been around for over 100+ years. Oil is a renewable resourse, which is what many people dont realize. Oil is basicly waste from inside the earth, and we will never run out of oil. Oil reserves will keep filling back up (which they have been, oil has been rediscovered in places that have been run dry!!!) and we will keep discovering new places to drill.

-Nick :TrikesOwn

EvilMooseofDoom
11-03-2008, 12:14 AM
Wow, definitely off of the deep end a bit there, Hal...I vivdly recall the Y2K scare, and hearing the same sort of suggestions back then, such as stocking up with food, go buy assault weapons, etc. I actually went to sleep that evening with my front door unlocked.

At least the arguments are mellow here, there are people threatening to beat each other up on a couple of other forums I go onto, concerning the election tuesday. Those forums are car-related, so I'm curious as to why they would vote for Obama, as some of his intended policies are designed to curtail automobile and off-road cycle useage, along with closing as many public/private riding areas as possible to appease the Greenie/Socialist idiot movement.

Concerning another thread here where someone mentioned how Christianity killed more people than the Nazis.....Communism/Socialism killed over 100 million people worldwide since its inception by a disgruntled son of a rich banker, Karl Marx...oh, did I mention that the New Jesus (obama) is a socialist?

threewheelin-feelin
11-03-2008, 02:23 AM
All this talk about us running out of oil is a bunch of bull sh1t. If the United States' own oil reserve would run out in 59 days, then how come we've been importing oil from the middle east for how many YEARS??? Cars have been around for over 100+ years. Oil is a renewable resourse, which is what many people dont realize. Oil is basicly waste from inside the earth, and we will never run out of oil. Oil reserves will keep filling back up (which they have been, oil has been rediscovered in places that have been run dry!!!) and we will keep discovering new places to drill.

-Nick :TrikesOwn

yes i have been spreading the word on this as much as possiable...i believe i saw this on the history channel

The Goat
11-03-2008, 10:49 AM
don't say someone, I'm the one who said it.

Christopher Columbus and Cortez have more blood on their hands than Hitler ever did... Need I mention the crusades. The Spanish inquisition alone is responsible for an estimated 80 million deaths. That's real genocide... 20 million is pissing in the wind.