what would you do?

[sandrion]

if you got a call and was told that your precious ATC110 has been broken. the transmission is shot in it and it was your little brother that done it. you were not there and that three-wheeler was the only thing you could call yours. YOU bought it, YOU put time into it, and YOU love it because it was awesome. well thats what happened to me. well i wasnt there and my little brother didnt know how to ride it very well it slipped out of gear, he yanked on the shifter and the transmission i was told was killed instantly.:( my mother says she was the one that let him ride it and i got pissed at her and she said she was not going to pay for it to get fixed even tho it was her fault.

[chrisand4]

I know you loved that thing...I don't think it's right that she is doing nothing to get it fixed, seeing as how she let him ride it without you there to supervise. Good luck and I hope you get something worked out.

[WIkid500]

I'd ask mom who the irresponsible one is, and tell her she is a bad role model for your little brother because she doesn't take responsibility for her actions. After that's taken care of I would tear the engine out, and split the cases. As you are repairing your 110 make your brother help you so next time when you let him ride it he understands what went wrong, and what it takes to fix things. I bet it's a gear or something you can order and fix, just make it a lesson for your brother try not to get pissed at him. Next time you brake something of mom's just tell her you are responsible but are not willing to pay for it. Simple as that.

[smvorndran]

Honda's are pretty tough. The damage may not be that bad. It may just need a shifter shaft. They're cheap & easy to fix.

smvorndran

[oscarmayer]

well jsut be glad he's ok to be honest. last time i saw a atv/atc trans brake the rider got tossed off the machine. thank god he was in gear and had a helmet. it tossed him into a set of small trees.

[fabiodriven]

I'd ask mom who the irresponsible one is, and tell her she is a bad role model for your little brother because she doesn't take responsibility for her actions. After that's taken care of I would tear the engine out, and split the cases. As you are repairing your 110 make your brother help you so next time when you let him ride it he understands what went wrong, and what it takes to fix things. I bet it's a gear or something you can order and fix, just make it a lesson for your brother try not to get pissed at him. Next time you brake something of mom's just tell her you are responsible but are not willing to pay for it. Simple as that.

This guy saved me alot of typing.:D

[factoryX]

lol tell your dad that your mom broke your bike. also, take out spark plugs when you leave,

[birddogg]

My brother did the same thing to me back in the day. I bought an 85' ATC250R when I got my first job out of high school. It was loaded up nicely with aftermarket goodies. Durablue axle, Westcoast swingarm, lowering strut, and DG pipe and silencer. I rode it one time and knew that there was some excessive piston slap going on there. I parked it and started saving up some coin for a new top end.

I was on my way home from my girlfriends house one day and saw my brother pushing my ATC up the road. I got out of my truck and started to threaten his life. Kicked it over one time and knew immediately that it was toast. We fought for a long time over that one.

I hauled my trike home and stuffed it in the back of the shed. I asked him for money all the time but he was still in high school so it was like getting blood out of a rock. I got a job that took me out of state so the ATC got put on the back burner for a while.

I got a local job that paid well enough to move me back in the area so I thought I'd pull the ATC out and start working on it. Came to find out that while I was gone my brother had pretty much stripped the thing out for parts.

Moral of the story is, if you have a little brother around keep your stuff locked up. Run padlocks or chains through your hubs, sprockets, swingarms, or brake rotors. I love my brother to death now, but there were times, back in the day, when I'd rather beat him to death.

I ended up trading the remains for TRX300EX parts. I got a set of 4 OEM rims with new holeshots, an FMF performax pipe, Renthal handlebars, NAC'S block-off plate, and stainless brake lines. It seemed like a good deal at that time, but I think I'll always regret getting rid of that "R". If I still had it, throwing my nickels and dimes at over a 15 year period, it would be a show stopper today.

[rdlsz24]

I had a similiar experience with my OLDER brother, who is 30 now. I keep my KFX in my dad's shed because I don't have room for it at my house. A couple years ago my brother called me to see how I felt about him riding it in the snow. I said the snow was too deep for a 2wd sport quad, it needed an oil change, etc, etc. I was trying to list as many reasons for him not to ride it that day, but I guess I stopped just short of outright saying NO. Anyway later that night I get a call from him. Ummm I flipped your quad when I hit a snow drift going too fast. I was pissed because I felt that I had told him not to ride it but he did anyway. Luckily the plastic came out unscathed and the only thing that happened was my Renthal bar pad got messed up. Needless to say I take the key home with me now.

Rob

[oscarmayer]

^ or take your quad home and park it in the back yard with a cover???

i personally feel if you have a house, you have no reason to stash anythin at your parents home any more. my sisters all stash tons of crap in my mom's garage and i finally had enough. after 8 years and never touchign it, i told them eitehr get it or i'm sending it to good will. next month good will is comming to get what is left.

i odn't have tons of room either, but if needed i'd park it in the back yard by the fence with a cover/tap over it.

not pickign on any one in particular, here, but jsut making a point. if you have a home, then you are responsible enough to have your own crap with you.

[rdlsz24]

I have a condo. That kind of crap won't fly there. We will be upgrading to a house soon and it will have a 3 car garage (only have 2 now) and a shed.

Plus I ride it at my parent's house and not at mine, so why drag it back and forth?

Rob

[daniel_250r]

around here you can buy 110's for like 100$ thats a complete trike! so you arent that out of luck sorry to hear about the bad news tho

[daniel_250r]

i would have to cut my brothers finger off if he even touched my trike

[chrisand4]

$100...wow,around here people want $500 for a 110 with no fenders or engine that has been buried in a landfill for 15 years.....in other words send some of those deals down our way :D.

[oscarmayer]

that's cool rdls. you have a codno so no worries. but i haev seen peopel with homes doing that sort of stuff and it always boiggles my mind how they can complain when they have their own storage at their own homes where it woudl be safe but instead leave it else where and chance damage.

friend of mine had a nice dirtbike he "kept" at his parents. oneof his siblings decided to go riding it one day figuring what they heck, it's been here for ever and no one rids it. my friend had winterized it and remvoed the fluids. they only gased it up and took off. i'm sure you can figure out the rest of the story. he started complaining. i looked at him and said, hey you know if you had kept it at your palce it wudl still be safe and sound. he was quite and said your right and stopped complaing. that night he went got it and never left it anywhere else again after he replaced the engine. (no oil does wonders to a bike's trans and engine)

[daniel_250r]

$100...wow,around here people want $500 for a 110 with no fenders or engine that has been buried in a landfill for 15 years.....in other words send some of those deals down our way :D. ya just from skimming along kijiji i came across a 200 big red, runs!, really good original shape for 200$. near toronto, and a 185 that needs the carb cleaned for 160$

[Mosh]

Now I see a few problems...
First of all, that trike is twenty years old.Who is to say it wouldnt have broke on YOU the next time you rode it?
You cant blame 20 years of wear and tear on your siblings.....

And society has gone to complete trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro....

Isn't blood thicker than water?
Are you willing to start WW3 with your blood, over a material posession?
I am not condoning him, that taking it without permission was the right thing to do..It was definately wrong.
As the one guy suggested, you need to come to a resolution with him and have him do the grunt work on the machine...If he dont have a job or is too young for a job, have him do some chores for you, to compensate for the repair costs.

But be logical....Do you honestly think the failure was all his fault, or something that just reared it's head while he was on it?
If he took it and smashed it into a tree, than yes that would be his fault completely.

And keep your stuff at your place or locked up from now on!

[drkilldrmz]

Even if your mom made a mistake, remember it still your mom. obviously you are still alive, so she has done quite a bit for you. Doesn't always seem like it, but mom's have feelings too. Take it easy on her..

[firehart]

Put an want ad on Craigslist for a three wheeler for parts. I picked up my 110, and my 125m that way. Got them for $50.00 each.

[chrisand4]

Now I see a few problems...
First of all, that trike is twenty years old.Who is to say it wouldnt have broke on YOU the next time you rode it?
You cant blame 20 years of wear and tear on your siblings.....

And society has gone to complete trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro....

Isn't blood thicker than water?
Are you willing to start WW3 with your blood, over a material posession?
I am not condoning him, that taking it without permission was the right thing to do..It was definately wrong.
As the one guy suggested, you need to come to a resolution with him and have him do the grunt work on the machine...If he dont have a job or is too young for a job, have him do some chores for you, to compensate for the repair costs.

But be logical....Do you honestly think the failure was all his fault, or something that just reared it's head while he was on it?
If he took it and smashed it into a tree, than yes that would be his fault completely.

And keep your stuff at your place or locked up from now on!

Hold on I think you may be getting the wrong idea, i'm his best friend and here is what happened in more detail.
He is 16 "his own place" is his moms/and...dads (you got the society part right, my parents are split up too). He isn't mad at his little brother, who is only 8.
He would let his brother ride it when he was around to supervise and everything was ok. We were on our way to get a dirtbike for me when he got the phone call.
His mom let his little brother ride it without him being there(and his little brother doesn't have a helmet there so:rolleyes: thats responsible).
His brother didn't really know how to ride so my theory is he didn't pull the shifter up far enough and it slipped out while he had it reved high(yeah he can't shift at the right time anyway,i've seen him try before) and so he slammed the shifter and it jarred the tranny and broke something.
Sandrion's problem is not with his brother(he is only 8 and Sandy understands that) it is that his mom refueses to even help him get it fixed...she is just outright saying it's his fault and shes not paying a dime on it.
Imo thats kinda irresponsible. As far as teenagers go we are not the rebelious type and we are good kids, I think his mom is being kind of harsh.
But all is not lost because we are going to pick him up a dirtbike tomorrow(yeah with his hard earned money) so he can ride when i'm on my dirtbike. Our plan is to bring the 110 up to my house and fix it here...only a matter of tearing it down and seeing whats wrong.

wow sorry for such a long-winded thing there but I got carried away. Don't take it the wrong way or anything i'm just trying to say how it happened from my point of view. :D

[Mosh]

Now I see a few problems...
First of all, that trike is twenty years old.Who is to say it wouldnt have broke on YOU the next time you rode it?
You cant blame 20 years of wear and tear on your siblings.....



Isn't blood thicker than water?
Are you willing to start WW3 with your blood, over a material posession?
I am not condoning him, that taking it without permission was the right thing to do..It was definately wrong.


But be logical....Do you honestly think the failure was all his fault, or something that just reared it's head while he was on it?
If he took it and smashed it into a tree, than yes that would be his fault completely.

And keep your stuff at your place or locked up from now on!

How do I have the wrong idea here?
I have popped bikes out of gear many times and they ran fine afterwards.
I had brothers and sisters and hey, ........we / they broke each others things.
We didnt expect mom or dad to pay for it though.

It looks as if we are dealing with some young guys here.
Stuff like this is going to happen.
Like I said, is it worth fighting with your FAMILY over a broken ATV?

[SmurfanCoke]

You just gotta teach siblings early...every time my little bro touched anything of mine, I stabbed him in the eye with a fork....and it worked, after a while he was so blind he could'nt find any of my stuff to touch....

No seriously, that's a bit drastic....

Just stab'em in the hand.....

[chrisand4]

I understand your point, it could break with anybody and it's not his brother's fault, like you said our machines are quite old and not going to last forever. I'm not even sure why he posted this other than to vent. I'm just saying from what I herd his mom was kind of being mean about it. It's not like he is demanding it to be fixed, but out of his 4 wheeler at his dads house (he has to ask to ride it because his dad considers it his but that is ok) and his 3 wheeler his trike was the only thing that was his to do with what he wanted. And the fact that his mom just let his little brother hop on it and go flying around the yard...well it kinda make you a little angry when that happens.

Anyway it's not a serious war or anything he just was hurt because he really loved his 3 wheeler, and I think since this thread is here I should explain a little better.

Like a stated, he is over it now just a little hurt at his mom's attitude for the situation...and I think letting an 8 year old with no experiance fly around the yard without a helmet is one of the reasons 3 wheelers have such a bad rep.

So...after all this typing (I guess i'm the philosophical type) I understand your points, I just want you to see it from my point of view (and i'm sure he will have a few comments later too:rolleyes: :lol: )

edit:
"Listen, after you finish school, have your career, and make your own money I don't care if you buy two hundred three wheelers, but until then you better learn how to fix them youself 'cause I ain't payin' for it"

Thats what my grandma had to say when I asked her if I could buy myself a 3 wheeler...if I break it I fix it---but at least I know if she somehow broke it she would at least feel a little sympathy(and not act like it was no big deal)...even if she wouldn't pay for it

[runaway]

hello
i say you take your brother out behind the shed and EXPLAIN to him how hes is not to touch your stuff! a chain and lock is the best money spent. just my 2 cents

[chrisand4]

Thats why I keep my building locked and i'm the only one with a key..i'm gonna make him get a big 'ol logging chain and a beefy master lock next time.

[Mosh]

Him Being young, I can understand his frustration over the whole deal.I would be mad too.

But crap happens man.

And I am sure that later on in life your friend will experience way worse things.
It just isn't worth fighting with your own family over.That is all I am sayin..

And buy a damn lock! LOL
To be honest, I am surprised a 8 year old could get a 110 started....

[Air-cooled-R]

Dont feel to bad. My sister took my fourtrax out riding with some friends one day and when I get back I see the bars wrapped around the tank, the levers and switches were broke and my front bumper and front fenders were pushed back a couple inches. I feel your pain

[firehart]

I have a ATC90 motor in the back of my truck. If it will work for you, you can have it if you pay postage. I'm not sure of its condition because I gave the starter away before I got it running. firehart@cableone.net

[super90]

Even if the same thing would have happened if it was him riding it or not, I know I would still be pissed. It wouldnt be that he broke it, it would be that when you tell someone not to do something and they do it anyway against your wishes. I know if someone else breaks something of mine im 10x more pissed than if I would have done it myself, because then im the only one to blame.

[daniel_250r]

hehe i did this to a friend who had my 200 before me he said "no don't ride my 3 wheeler, and he hopped on his sled and went, i jump on the trike, follow him start doing drifts try it even faster and roll it bending his bars

[Autophysn]

Ha Ha, you have got to love family. Honestly, I would veiw it as at least my brother had fun, he will always remember it. The bike is simply a machine. Machines break, that's a fact of life! But they can also be fixed!

Your mom is most likely just lashing back because you got attitude with her.

Either way, I bet it isn't that bad, and even if it is, you can get a whole new clone motor for cheap, so What the problem is?

[oscarmayer]

the lil bro is 8 anbd the older is 16?

ok let me ask this, when was the last time anyone here heard of an 8yr old doing what they should or listening to the word "no"? common get real, then comming online and complaining? pfffft.

ok I decree a new rule be set here and forth.
no KIDS (udner 21 is a kid to me) shall come on to 3ww and complain about said sybling or anyone breaking anything on a trike. why? they are just as harsh and rough on them as the other ones that broke it. it was just the luck of the draw on when it broke.

anyone else think a new rule should be set forth?

[firehart]

It understand that he's upset and his ride is broken. He's lucky his brother was not hurt. If I can help, I'll donate the parts from my old ATC90 if they'll work. And yes, he should have his brother help him fix it.

[Autophysn]

Here, Here!

I totally agree, there even should be some sort of adult only forum. Not to be obscene or anything like that, just some of this gets way out of hand, and the bottom line, some kid is looking for support from somebody else, but is only giving us his side of the story.

My son is 8, and he could do some damage, but you know what, that is what the bike is for. Now if I where this kids father, I would congratulate him on teaching his child the meaning of working for a buck to get something you want. But also fix the problem both with the current broken 110, and for gosh sake, get that 8 yr old a bike of his own! LOL!

I play with it, but it is a serious topic. I support the new rule!

[chrisand4]

Oww come on guys...you are reading way too deep into this. Like I said he probably only posted it to vent or something...he was mad his trike was broken. But it's over now--it's not like they aren't speaking to each other or something.

[sandrion]

thank you chris, because it seems everyone is reading too deep into this, yes i posted it to vent BUT i also posted it to mabye get some ideas to handle the situation. it seems that some people saw that and offered advice and i thank them for that.

[Nick_R_23]

Well you guys also have to remember every family works different. Some would have to pay for the parts and others would say who cares. I know if my brother went and jumped on one of mine and broke it, he would pay for it. I have my hard earned money into my machines and he shouldnt be able to break it (hence taking my money out of it) without reimbursing me.

However, this is kind of an odd situation, since your brother probably isnt old enough to pay for parts, and your mom should have known that your brother shouldnt be using your stuff without your permission/supervision. I would probably say its mostly your moms fault since if she was letting him ride it, she should have been supervising him and taking responsibilty. I would look at it this way though...you say you are 16? Do you drive yet? If you were driving your moms car, and broke and/or wrecked it, would THEY hold YOU responsible for paying for the damages? If so, I think it would be fair to expect them to pay for damages to your property, but if they wouldnt expect you to pay, its not fair to expect them to either.

Just my .02$, take what you will from it. :)

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[oscarmayer]

who baught the trike in the first palce. i get the feeling your parents did not you. and if they did, you have no reason to complain. + it's very unlikley your 8 yr old brother can get any money to pay for anything.

look at it this way, now you have an xcuse to learn how to rebuild a trans. instead of gripping the "whole" time, a 1 liner would have been cool, then you could have posted how your going to tear it down to look at what to do to fix it. complaining does nothing aned causes issues. find a problem, then you must find a solution too. i still can't get over your brother is 8, riding the trike alone at all w/o any helmet. did you ever read the reason they were "trying" to banwheelers in the first place? 50% of all cases involving deaths, were "kids" not wearing helmets.....

instead of complaining, be glad your little bro didn't get hurt or worse. see i feel you have the wrong priorities here. your putitng your bike before your family. that's dead wrong. your bike is a "thing". things can be repalced, your lil bro cannot and neither can your mom. feel blessed and happy you have a family that's alive and kicking. go read the thread about my build on the 125m for the poor kid. he has no one.

[WIkid500]

Wow you guy's went nuts with this thread. The kid comes to vent a little and you guy's get all liberal and take privileges away. For those who want to oppose rules on everyone back the F up. You are no better than a liberal taking your rights away, Do you remember what the CPSC did to our tirkes? Yes placed rules so we couldn't have them. I'm all for letting the kid come here and vent, it's not like he's edog and make 5 posts and deleting them ten minutes later, simply one post about it. What if his next post is asking how to fix his broken 110? You guy's going to say "your a kid, you can't be here". I have seen more adults act like children on the internet than most kids do.

[firehart]

Sandrion.
When you do figure out what's broken, send me a photo of the broken part. I'll see if the part is same in that old ATC90 motor. firehart@cableone.net

[oscarmayer]

i didn;t say a kid can't be here. i said they shoudl not be venting about others breaking their trikes. most kids don't even take care of their stuff themselves

I know cause i got 2 kids. both tear crap up and leave it lying where ever.

[WIkid500]

i didn;t say a kid can't be here. i said they shoudl not be venting about others breaking their trikes. most kids don't even take care of their stuff themselves

I know cause i got 2 kids. both tear crap up and leave it lying where ever.



Ahahha Oscar that is a good point, kids do break stuff and leave it wherever lol. I think this kid ranting on the forum is a little different though. Is appears as if he cares about his trike.

[firehart]

What's the difference between him venting and one of us venting? We all do it. Lets just be glad no one got hurt and help this kid get his bike going again.

[chrisand4]

Nobody was putting their bike before their family, he bought it from me with his own money too. The point about his brother riding it witout a helmet is what I was talking about, his mom was letting him ride without one (Sandrion made him wear his helmet when he was their.)

It's not like the family is broken up and their not talking...and nobody was complaining the whole time (its a stupid thread and I told him to delete it anyway.) Things are back to normal and like I said,when we get time we are tearing it down and finding the problem, it will be fixed when we get the parts. It was just one of those you had to be there and hear the conversation things.. "Well yeah, your three wheeler is broken, I think the transmission is tore up in it.....so I hope you have money to fix it. *Click*"

But saying just because we are kids we don't take care of our stuff or appreciate anything hurts a bit, not all teenagers are punks that badmouth their parents and don't take care of their stuff. I have morals too :p .

[Autophysn]

Nobody was putting their bike before their family, he bought it from me with his own money too. The point about his brother riding it witout a helmet is what I was talking about, his mom was letting him ride without one (Sandrion made him wear his helmet when he was their.)

It's not like the family is broken up and their not talking...and nobody was complaining the whole time (its a stupid thread and I told him to delete it anyway.) Things are back to normal and like I said,when we get time we are tearing it down and finding the problem, it will be fixed when we get the parts. It was just one of those you had to be there and hear the conversation things.. "Well yeah, your three wheeler is broken, I think the transmission is tore up in it.....so I hope you have money to fix it. *Click*"

But saying just because we are kids we don't take care of our stuff or appreciate anything hurts a bit, not all teenagers are punks that badmouth their parents and don't take care of their stuff. I have morals too :p .


This is good to know:Bounce :beer

does he need anything for the bike,
I have some extra 110 parts

[chrisand4]

We will know when we tear it down, it still runs awesome as far I know, just wont shift into gear. We are having exams and semester change at school right now so time is hard to come by, should be in the next few weeks though.

[firehart]

I was the little brother. I'm sure I broke lots of my oldest brother's stuff when he were growing up. "I was just looking at it and it broke!" Later on he helped me fix my broken stuff. I wish he lived closer so I could break his stuff again. j/k He now lives thousands of miles away and I only see him when someone dies.