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03 ORANGE SHEE
01-26-2009, 05:14 PM
how many turns out for the air/fuel screw? thanks!

dcreel
01-26-2009, 05:20 PM
I'm in for the answer on this one as well. Any ifo to the PW80 carb too..

Yamahondaman
01-26-2009, 05:32 PM
normally like 1.5 turn's out .. kinda like the BIG Bikes ... it work's with the Idol along with the Zero to 1/8 Throttle Responce ... some times you have to clean the pilot jet out with a Torch cleaner or a strand of speaker wire .. :D

old-yellow
01-26-2009, 05:34 PM
The haynes says 2 turns out from closed.

Yamahondaman
01-26-2009, 05:58 PM
well then turn it out two turn's ... some motor builder's do "certain" thing's to carb's to keep the screw's in close so they won't Vibrate out... especially when your on the line and you want it Right for the Perfect Holeshot ... How Bout's It Raffa ? :naughty:

Jason Hall
01-26-2009, 06:26 PM
It all depends on where you slide hight Is set :beer I like em LEAN at an Idle!!!

03 ORANGE SHEE
01-26-2009, 06:50 PM
jason, ill pull the slide and see where the clip is.
thanks for your help too old yellow.:beer

03 ORANGE SHEE
01-26-2009, 06:51 PM
I'm in for the answer on this one as well. Any ifo to the PW80 carb too..

you putting the 80 carb on your too??

03 ORANGE SHEE
01-26-2009, 07:14 PM
jason, the clip is all the way at the top of the needle , for leanness!!

old-yellow
01-26-2009, 07:19 PM
jet needle/clip position-3x1/3. thats how its listed in haynes.

03 ORANGE SHEE
01-26-2009, 07:27 PM
jet needle/clip position-3x1/3. thats how its listed in haynes.

is that the needle number??( 3x 1/3) so the factory put it all the way up like that?? thanks, nathan

Jason Hall
01-26-2009, 07:27 PM
Nathan, I'm talking about how big the air gap Is under the slide with the throttle in the closed position. I have seen so many times where people are trying to get something to Idle correctly, but just have no clue how to do It. If you have the slide set way up with the Idle adjuster screw, then your air screw will need to be way In. If you start at 1.5 turns out like Ronnie suggested, then turn the Idle screw (the one that pushes the slide up) until It will Idle on It's own, then fine tune with the air screw. All engine's will need a slightly different adjustment to be just right. The Adjustment screws on the zinger are hard to get to with the plastic on.

I use a drill bit to set multiple carbs. I've tuned on banshee's that don't run for crap. The first thing I do Is slide a 1/8" drill bit under the slide, and set the Idle screw to where the drill bit Is just slightly pinched under each slide, then make sure there Is enough slack In the cable when the throttle is closed. Then open the throttle all the way, to make sure the slide Is opening all the way. Fine tune with equal turns on each carb!!! Most of the time you will find that one carb wants a bit different setting to be just right. You can't just figure that 2 turns out will work on every Zinger, If you want yours to run to It's fullest, you need to listen and tweek, then ride & tweek, then start & stop & tweek , then hit the gas & let off real quick & tweek, TWEEK TWEEK TWEEK & TWEEK:w00t: :beer :beer

dcreel
01-26-2009, 07:31 PM
Jason,

Do you have pictures of your cr60 trike with zinger parts? I'm curious to see just what we can do with these zingers.

03 ORANGE SHEE
01-26-2009, 07:37 PM
cool, thanks jason. ill take your advise and tune it like you say in the daylight hours.its cold and dark out here!
if it wasnt so nice, id take and trim/drill the plastic to get to the two screws easier.

Jason Hall
01-26-2009, 07:54 PM
I didn't use that many Zinger parts on my CR60 zinger. I used the plastic, seat & top frame backbone. The rest Is CR60 & custom made. I don't think Nathan would mind If I posted up a couple Pic's.

http://http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff42/Jasons450r/atc60rrear.jpg

http://http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff42/Jasons450r/ATC60Rdone-1.jpg

http://http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff42/Jasons450r/ATC60Rdone8-1.jpg

The black rectangular shaped part Is all that I used from the zinger frame. That was just so I could use the zinger tank & plastic.
http://http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff42/Jasons450r/CR60Zingerframebuild.jpg

dcreel
01-26-2009, 08:38 PM
That is awesome!! Were the triples custom made, or cr60? Did you use the stock zinger front tire and wheel?

Just awesome, gives me ideas.. hmm..
thank you.

Jason Hall
01-26-2009, 09:19 PM
Yes I built custom Triple's, for the stock 84 CR60 forks. I used all the zinger wheels. I used a 86 200x carrier & axle, then cut the stock 200x rear hubs down and made adaptors to fit the 3 bolt zinger rear wheels.

03 ORANGE SHEE
01-26-2009, 09:36 PM
that is really nice build jason! ive never seen that one,you have alot of hours on constructing that trike. do you still have that blue one i've seen at trikefest?

Jason Hall
01-26-2009, 10:22 PM
Yes, I have alot of time in the CR60 powered bike. I do still have the blue one from TF, It's a good little runner :beer

Bryan Raffa
01-27-2009, 11:47 AM
MOD it!:naughty: BIG PIPE,,,,,BIG CARB.....carbon fiber reeds....:TrikesOwn


had a extra set of fenders... race cut:twisted: Mine RIPS.. but need some jets

Bryan Raffa
01-27-2009, 11:55 AM
going to cut these Z pegs off and weld them on the zinger pegs..zinger pegs suck! The plastic is still work in progress.. just scraped with a razor so far,,but in a hurry to finnish..So I Can woop up on some PA boys:Bounce

MIK6
01-27-2009, 02:54 PM
Hey raffa you want to school me on the zingers at brapps ride? I just picked mine up from freaks, I got green blood, know nothing bout this little blue (yellow yami) thing.

MIK6 / Mike

03 ORANGE SHEE
01-27-2009, 04:57 PM
cool pic's bryan! that carb is HUGE!what kind of jets do you need??
fits nice in the back of the rhino too...