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rocket350
02-02-2009, 12:10 PM
I went through the entire wiring system. Voltage shows about 11-12 v AC, then jumps up to 50 v AC when you rev the engine. I have the wiring diagram and manual, but shows nothing about a voltage regulator, or a cause.

1) is there a voltage regulator of some sort?

2) can I install one somehow, maybe aftermarket?

I had an extra CDI black box thing laying around, but did not make a diference. Does this have anything to do with regulating the voltage, or is it just for ignition? Could my lighting coil be bad?

Thanks in advance.

oscarmayer
02-02-2009, 04:04 PM
maybe the regulator is bad or the stator?

you can look at my sig and see a link to DL manuals for your trike.

brapp
02-02-2009, 09:22 PM
this si an easy one its voltg regulator

Frankencelery
02-02-2009, 09:40 PM
I've been fighting regulator issues lately too. I didn't know the 200x had one, but I looked it up and it sure does! No question that's the problem.

Cottonwood
02-02-2009, 10:08 PM
I'm glad this question came up (though I'm sorry about your problems), we've been having the same problem with a 200s forever now! We didn't have a manual either so thanks oscarmayer!

Frankencelery
02-02-2009, 10:27 PM
See my thread on this very issue with a 200s a couple months ago. The quick answer: I replaced both bulbs at once and it resolved the problem...for now. Truthfully, I think that the Chinese bulbs I've been buying are crap, no comparison to the original Stanley bulbs that came stock.

The other suggestion someone came up with was something called a volt-pack. This is a basic regulator for just this purpose. Search for it on Dennis Kirk, or see my thread on it below:

http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=90458

tanks350x
02-02-2009, 10:31 PM
I had the same problem on my X, but in my case, it was indeed the voltage regulator... Just before the bulbs popped, they turned a very bright blue

Cottonwood
02-02-2009, 10:48 PM
Thanks Frankencelery, that thread is perfect, sounds like we have a couple options.

300rman
02-02-2009, 10:50 PM
yep, its the regulator. have the sme problem on my XL80, but the fromt bulb is 40 bucks to replace it! YIKES! not to mention the regulator......i didnt even bother to ask....i"ll stay light-less.

riverrat
02-02-2009, 11:42 PM
Check also that the wires coming from the stator are not grounding out against the engine, or chassis.

Howdy
02-03-2009, 01:04 AM
If anyone needs a volt pack I can normally beat DennisKirks total price if your only ordering a volt pack. PM me if you need one.
Howdy

rocket350
02-03-2009, 11:21 AM
No... my trike does not have an obvious voltage regulator. know it's a regulator problem, but I don't know where it is, or how it is regulated without one. It puts out AC, and a regulator would convert to DC and limit the voltage to 13 - 14 v. The ONLY electronics are the coil, and CDI box that has 1 round plug that is mounted under the tank.

I was wondering if anyone here that is familiar with this setup could tell me if the voltage regulator is built in with the CDI.

Anyway, thanks for the help, I'll just add a regulator. The lights have been working for the past 8 years, and just recently quit.

oscarmayer
02-03-2009, 03:41 PM
look at my sig. there is a link to downloading a manual for your trike in it.....

Frankencelery
02-03-2009, 09:01 PM
Ok, let me correct myself. I said earlier that the '83-'85 200x has a voltage regulator. I found this in admittedly unscientific way....I looked on Ebay, and people had them for sale. But I just looked in the actual HONDA service manual, and guess what? No regulator. I'm not sure what they're selling on ebay.

Anyway, if there's no regulator, it must be a failing lighting coil....

rocket350
02-04-2009, 09:44 AM
I did the same thing with ebay. How's that KLT 110 running? I bought one for my wife 14 years ago for $10.00, and rebuilt it about 6 years ago. She loves it and refuses to ride anything else.

yyz4208@aol.com
02-04-2009, 11:45 AM
You can use a voltage regulater from almost any thing that has a 12 volt system.

Frankencelery
02-04-2009, 11:48 AM
The KLT110 always starts, no matter how cold it is. I've never been able to keep it idling though, even with a new carb, and a lot of tweaking. It also misses 2nd gear intermittenly, leading me to believe that it's not going to last too much longer. But as long as I keep that in mind, it's an excellent runner and has way more power than you'd expect for a 110.