Some help with restoring a 1985 Honda 110 Atc

[somekidwithanm4]

The first question that i will ask is do you have any hints, tips or tricks with solving electrical problems with wiring, devices etc? (I think my trike might have some:cry: )
Second: Any hints, tips or tricks on getting the engine working period?
Third: Any odd details about the transmission? (I don't really know anything about anything with trikes since this happens to be my first one :w00t:) Also, How do the gears shift? (is it push down to go up a gear or push up to go up a gear)
Fourth and final: Any random hints, tips or tricks on restoring a trike period

Sincerely,
Justin aka somekidwithanm4

[TriMotoMan]

to shift nuetral is at the bottom and u go up from there

[Autophysn]

post some pictures so we can see what you are dealing with, then we could go from there. We all know what a 85 110 looks like, but as to the condition of yours, we do not know. As for tips and tricks, patience, and time are the key. What is the problem with the motor? why won't it run?

[somekidwithanm4]

Here's the pics you wanted. Don't panick I took it apart it didn't come like that. The only parts missing are the 2 nuts that hold in the exaust manifold, but that's an easy hardware store find. To check if the electrical is work, i just need to try the spark plug trick with the plug out of the engine, holding it in the dark while trying to start the engine. If there's no spark, then there's either a sparkplug problem, or a wire problem.

The trike itself (the frame if you will)

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The right side of the engine. I now believe the electrical is the main problem due to the fact that i just obtained a wiring diagram from Three wheeler world.

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The wiring up close

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The alternator. The pull start on top of this is very gummed up and i am trying to fix it.

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One of the 2 wires on the top of the alternator came off. I was thinking of attempting to sauder it back on.

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The engine. Note that the block is newer than the rest of the engine. Two owners ago it was replaced.

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[saturnthegiant]

I'm not seeing any pics.......

[Autophysn]

you need to check your post, I can see the pictures thru my email but not here
it may be because of it being face book, try using photobucket, they seem to work for all forums

[somekidwithanm4]

It's fixed now. look at it again.

[somekidwithanm4]

If you would like i could go and put it all back together again so you could se how it looks like that.

[seadoo650]

Deffinately get a manual. The motors in these machines alon with the wiring are pretty simple.

[somekidwithanm4]

I have a wiring diagram, but not a manual. Should i buy it from ebay or get it at a honda store?

[seadoo650]

No on the Honda store. They're overpriced.

[hublake]

try www.helminc.com

[somekidwithanm4]

They don't got the owners manual, but they've got the shop manual. do you think that'd be okay?
And also, i've been lookin' through old photos and everything. I've noticed that my three wheeler while the frame may be that of a 85 110, the plastics, fuel tank and many other parts are not the same of that year and are of some difference. I hope this doesn't interfere with my restoration too much.

[Mr.Atc]

I could sell you a whole 110 threewheeler the same as that one.It just needs a motor rebuild because of lack of compression and you can ride it for 10 minuites and it dies.

[somekidwithanm4]

Lol how much? I guess minus the shipping not unless you want to take the time to calculate that.

[saturnthegiant]

Take my advice and get a Clymer manual to go with your service manual. Seems to me the Clymer's are more detailed with more photos. The service manuals are very general. You should be able to find parts pretty easily.

[saturnthegiant]

Also you might keep an eye out on Craigslist for a running trike in your area....you can usually get a running trike for pretty cheap. I was like you at first, i bought a non-running trike and was gonna fix it, but in the meantime i had very little cash and was getting to do no riding, so i watched Craigslist and got a nice little 125M for $300 and a little later i got a really good running 200E for $500, the guy came down from his original price of $900. If you show up with cash you more than likely will get a good deal. Most of the time people aren't busting down the door wanting to buy trikes, most people are crazy about quads!!!!:crazy:

[somekidwithanm4]

Yeah lol. I agree quads are good but trikes are better. Back to the subjject!!

[hublake]

They don't got the owners manual, but they've got the shop manual. do you think that'd be okay?
And also, i've been lookin' through old photos and everything. I've noticed that my three wheeler while the frame may be that of a 85 110, the plastics, fuel tank and many other parts are not the same of that year and are of some difference. I hope this doesn't interfere with my restoration too much.

You need more than the owners manual if you want to restore it. I get all my shop manuals and parts manuals from them. They are reproductions of the original Honda manuals. Cost some but well worth it.

[hublake]

I could sell you a whole 110 threewheeler the same as that one.It just needs a motor rebuild because of lack of compression and you can ride it for 10 minuites and it dies.

What do you want for your 110? And where is Gulliver

[somekidwithanm4]

I don't know. I sent him a private message asking him about it too, but he hasn't replied. Like i mentioned above, this thing has had some tinkering probably and i knwo that it has a plethora of different atc year parts.

[somekidwithanm4]

A little update on the 110:
I'm honestly thinking now that a manual might not be of much use to me as the facts is that the trike is less than 50% stock in my guess's. The only items i can tell are stock are the plastics, seat, frame and headlight. Some things i don't know if they're stock or not and somethings i know they're not stock period. I'll post a few newer photos in a sec with the trike mostly reasembled.

[somekidwithanm4]

Here they are.
The side view.
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The engine and tranny i'm pretty sure the tranny's not even stock now.
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The gas tank which i know is not stock. Anyone know what it's from?
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The rear end
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Frame label. The proof that at least the frame's an 85
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Exaust.
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[somekidwithanm4]

Does anyone recognize the designs on the gastank?

[somekidwithanm4]

Nvm about that last question. I've found out it's an ATC 90 motor. I know it's from 1970-1978 but i don't know the exact year. That would be why the wiring looked so wierd :)

[1985BigRed250ES]

the tank looks original with some kind of graphics on it. the exhaust looks stock. yeah I would say the wiring is kinda wierd looking. The motor looks like a 110 motor from a different year, but u can Identify the size of the engine by looking at the head on the left side of the motor, it should say 105cc. not sure what size the 90 motor is CC wise.

[somekidwithanm4]

Thx for the info Big Red. Also the engine says 89CC so like i said it is a 90 CC motor so now you know what 90 Cc motors say. Also what are some good tips with removing surface rust and good carborator rebuild tips.

[1985BigRed250ES]

I removed the surface rust on my 110 with a wire wheel on a drill. as far as the carb goes, I have put it in a gal can of carb cleaner and let it sit for about 30 mins and blew it out with compressed air and put a rebuild kit in it. It ran great til the spark plug hole stipped out and it has sat ever since then. As u know I am currently restoring my 110 and I forgot about the carb in the cleaner for two days and it turned my carb black<<not sure what caused it, but all of the passeges are clear and I got to put it back together and when I get the motor back, hopefully it will run great again.

[somekidwithanm4]

yeah we'll see. mine is sitting in carb cleaner right now as it got some rust in it from the tank. i think i'm gonna go buy a bottle of that evaporust and dump it in the tank cause the tank desperately needs it

[firehart]

Where in Utah are you? I have a 84 110 I'm thinking of parting out.

[somekidwithanm4]

I'm in Kaysville. In northern utah. Right below ogden. If you want you could ship it and i could pay you.

[somekidwithanm4]

I uploaded a video on youtube for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkoMG7cAuig

[firehart]

Maybe I can meet you next time the family goes to Lagoon.

[somekidwithanm4]

when will that be?

[somekidwithanm4]

Also, does anyone have an alternator that i could have? i believe that mine is broken

[1985BigRed250ES]

yeah we'll see. mine is sitting in carb cleaner right now as it got some rust in it from the tank. i think i'm gonna go buy a bottle of that evaporust and dump it in the tank cause the tank desperately needs it

use some muratic acid that stuff works great.

[somekidwithanm4]

that or i could use some vinegar.

[sheadijn]

Don't know if you still need/want them but i came across this link for manuals.
http://72.52.143.80/~trikes/Manuals/ATC&#37;20manuals/

[somekidwithanm4]

Haha Cool!!! Thx so much man that'll be helpful!