Here's a question...is anyone "fast" on their 3 wheeler?

[Micahdogg]

I thought I was fast....when I was riding by myself in the slick dirt (not mud). I invited a friend over to my place with his 04 YFZ450 and we both went at it. Yeah, I'm not fast. Granted it was very tacky this time and I couldn't really slide the three wheeler like before....but man I was so unstable. I was on the verge of flipping this thing on nearly every turn and he was just running away from me. I rode so hard I think it sucked a year off my life.

Near the end of the day I continued to have chain problems so I put the ATC up and grabbed my RM250. Suddenly I was killing him with way less effort. I'm a bike guy at heart though...so this is where I feel the most comfortable.

I'm just wondering if anyone out there can actually trash guys on fast quads? Or at least hang right with em? Even though I can't....and I don't ever see myself developing the skills....this ATC is still such a blast to ride just because of what it is. It's just fun knowing I can ride it somewhat fast whereas my YFZ450 buddy just putted around until he fouled my plug :)

[Yamahondaman]

HA HA ... Maybe some of these guy's will chime in later on to this thread .....
NO 3-Wheeler can hang with a Quad on the trails or the MX Track...
iv'e jumped a STOCK 400ex 55 ft. and there's NO WAY "Them" Trikes can do that
I LOVE 3-Wheeler's but ......................... :beer

[Hoosier_Daddy]

It isn't likely that any trike will consistantly beat a quad on tight turns and stuff. Trikes can't corner like quads. We love our trikes but most of us aren't going to claim things that just don't happen. Next time, challenge your buddy to a drag race. Then you should be able to take him. Even then, I don't know. I hear those 450's are fast.

[Taiser]

I use to be fast...when I was 15 and 160 lbs, now at 220 or so, I don't think I am...and I'm sure I can't lean into the curves like I use to, so that slows me even more! :D

[davidcool]

Somewhat i thank

[davidcool]

I need a tri-moto service manual or repair manual...CAN SOMEONE HELP ME

[eddie pettengil]

A slick, flat track with tight turns with equal rider ability should be a good race. Trikes turn faster and hook better (out of the corner).

[DixiePlowboy]

Wish there were a vid of you cornering the R, Micahdogg.

Was this a completely flat "course"? Tight or wide sweeping turns? There are many questions in my head about both the setting(course), your machine, your riding abilities, etc.... that there's no way to know if it all came down to machine or rider abilities.


You said the dirt was very "tacky" and you "couldn't really slide", so it apprears the conditions played heavily to the quad's strengths while minimizing your chances.

As for some of the other posters: 450 quads are not unbeatable. I have no interest in MX(where they are very tough), so I'm refering to other forms of racing.

To answer your question: Yes, there are still fast people on 3-wheelers.

[Dirtfoxx]

Dirtcrasher why don't you Grow the F up...? You don't run this board so have some respect for others besides yourself! Just because you post 100 times a day and have no Life doesn't give you the right to call people names....! No Wonder why you are single, your wife was very smart to leave you, and your last girlfriend is now Gay! Another reason is probably how you treat people......HMMMMMM!

[Dirtcrasher]

I have seen some amazingly fast people on trikes. Point that front tire, throw some body english into it and your gone! In loose pack where turning is less of a problem I see trikes competing with a heavier quad just fine....

Maybe it's the age group here.... Once your in your 30's and own a home/have a family etc, I think we all tend to be a bit more cautious.

Regardless, there are allot of people that are very fast on 2 strokes and the 450R conversions. Physical training has allot to do with speed. A heavy and poorly suspended 350X tends to wear on you pretty quick trying to keep up...... I get worn out very fast, it's hard to be "fluid" on such a heavy machine.

[oldtime3wheeler]

At my age Im just glad to beable to keep up with the pack.

[SWIGIN]

back when i raced 250-OPEN A class i took my brothers atc250r up to an outlaw track and took 2nd place.

this was a fast wide open ''mx'' track....i would call it a TT track but they called it MX. anyway, it had a real tight infeild section then we came out on the ovle in turn 4 and ran the front strech to turn 1....wide the F open.

theres was a ton of trx Rs and a few banshees there that night.

[DixiePlowboy]

back when i raced 250-OPEN A class i took my brothers atc250r up to an outlaw track and took 2nd place.

this was a fast wide open ''mx'' track....i would call it a TT track but they called it MX. anyway, it had a real tight infeild section then we came out on the ovle in turn 4 and ran the front strech to turn 1....wide the F open.

theres was a ton of trx Rs and a few banshees there that night.

That's what I'm talkin 'bout....and that's TT. Smallish jumps usually.

DC is right (except about the over 30 part....some of us just get nuttier:lol: ). Skill can get you out front, physical fitness/endurance keeps you from falling back through the pack.

[JohnR.]

ChrisD and I have ice raced built 250R's against modded (Yamaha, Suzuki, and Honda) 450's with experienced quad riders on them and we are very competitive on the ice. Whoever gets out front out of the gate usually holds their position unless they make a mistake. Down the straightaways our R's are pretty much equal to the 450's in acceleration. We can usually get out of the corners a little better because we have less weight in the front which equals more in the back over the rear tires.

John

[Dirtcrasher]

On the ice you have grip and slip.............. I can't believe how awesome RAFFA's Z hooks up on ice :D I'm sure he can take quads down with that puppy.....

[DixiePlowboy]

iv'e jumped a STOCK 400ex 55 ft. and there's NO WAY "Them" Trikes can do that


I've seen an '85 R do a 45 ft. tabletop...repeatedly.....from the saddle of said R when I was only 13-years old. Not much height mind you, and it wasn't 55ft, but that's a good distance in my book. Certainly my narrow behind didn't hold any record with that, so I'm sure there were (countless)better riders on better setup 3-wheelers that could do 55ft or more.
:beer

[fabiodriven]

HA HA ... Maybe some of these guy's will chime in later on to this thread .....
NO 3-Wheeler can hang with a Quad on the trails or the MX Track...
iv'e jumped a STOCK 400ex 55 ft. and there's NO WAY "Them" Trikes can do that
I LOVE 3-Wheeler's but ......................... :beer

Agreed %100.

I don't care what all you heros on here say about "slaying quads" and what not. It's %100 BS. Give equal riders a 250R and a 450R or even a Z400 and the trike is going to be smoked. You guys are all internet heros and if you're beating quads it's either because they let you win, the other guy can't ride, or you're racing TRX 70's. Face the facts, a trike cannot hang with a quad with the exception of ice racing and TT. Throw some whoops and jumps in there and you're toast. I'm not standing up for quads, I don't own any, I don't like them, I am merely being realistic.

Don't beleive me? Throw a quad into the MX races at trikefest and see what happens.

This topic was discussed before and I seemed to be the only realistic triker that chimed in.


Oh, and Dirtfoxx and Davidcool- go bite a trailpro .:twisted:

[threewheelin-feelin]

well i have out ran many blasters and 400ex's and one 450r that the riding must have been asleep on a mx track...but i also have been riding 19 years...the next time i went i was running with a bunch of 450 r's and yfz's and i did not pass then but i did keep up so the 350x's with a good rider can be competitive on the mx track with equal bikes

[DixiePlowboy]

Face the facts, a trike cannot hang with a quad with the exception of ice racing and TT.



Flat tracking(dirt or ice) and TT is EXACTLY where I contend that a (properly setup and ridden)race 3-wheeler has an excellent chance. The rougher the track, the more in the quads favor.

After watching the pros practice MX down the road yesterday, I am inclined to believe the 450 quads are hella fast on an MX track.

[88 Turbo Coupe]

In Oct. of 2006 I raced the AMA hare scramble in Eagleswood NJ on my just restored 86 250R (my post is archived here). 2 hrs and 50 miles flat out. I was the ONLY ATC racing and let me tell you there is NO WAY any ATC rider is going to keep up with the quads. First the trails are rutted for quads and not 3 wheels. Big disadvantage. To make a long story short I beat the liven heck out of my 250r. And I'm no slouch. I really wanted to show them guys up. I had to pull over and let the quads by. Just to fast. BTW I finished 3rd in my class.

[kbreese]

Agreed %100.

I don't care what all you heros on here say about "slaying quads" and what not. It's %100 BS. Give equal riders a 250R and a 450R or even a Z400 and the trike is going to be smoked. You guys are all internet heros and if you're beating quads it's either because they let you win, the other guy can't ride, or you're racing TRX 70's. Face the facts, a trike cannot hang with a quad with the exception of ice racing and TT. Throw some whoops and jumps in there and you're toast. I'm not standing up for quads, I don't own any, I don't like them, I am merely being realistic.

Don't beleive me? Throw a quad into the MX races at trikefest and see what happens.

This topic was discussed before and I seemed to be the only realistic triker that chimed in.


Oh, and Dirtfoxx and Davidcool- go bite a trailpro .:twisted:

I don't understand. Why is that? 85-86 250R's have a really nice suspension....so why can't they handle whoops and jumps?

[Dirtcrasher]

With the ATC triangle, you have to keep that front tire right there. As soon as it leaves "right there" you have to let of the throttle. Quads just have more punch and go stability in rough areas and can make up time.....

[Micahdogg]

It was a fairly flat track with a decent little kicker jump and a very mild downhill jump into a long sweeping turn............but all the speed out of that turn was met with very a very tight tree section. It didn't help that (1) I was tired as all get out and (2) I was waiting for the chain to get thrown...which it did. I'm sure my poor technique played into it a lot. We both have the same +4 width axles which just suck in the tight stuff....but I couldn't get over how easily my trike wanted to flip in the turns. Just past the jump was a tight 180 sweeping turn that I never did just pin it around.....it just felt like I was gonna hook and roll. He was slaying it around that turn.

I have my ATC broken down to the frame right now and EVERYTHING is getting sorted out so re-establishing rider confidence will go a long way.

Oh, but when I took his quad around the same track.....even competely tired....it felt like a caddy. My atc felt like a log wagon.

Micah

[Brad200X]

Sounds like you just need to get used the machine. I don't know what kinda tires you're running, but you might have the wrong ones for the track, which will make it want to push out. Of course if you're really serious about this you may want to go the whole nine yards with an MX or flat track setup.

[atctim]

just curious as to what size rear tires you have? on a track 18" rears are KEY!

[oldtime3wheeler]

On a mx track I think the quad wins. In tight trails woods riding, I think the trike could take it.
Oh on ice Raffa's Z would be hard to catch no matter what you are riding.
Just my 2 cents though

[Hoosier_Daddy]

Agreed %100.

I don't care what all you heros on here say about "slaying quads" and what not. It's %100 BS. Give equal riders a 250R and a 450R or even a Z400 and the trike is going to be smoked. You guys are all internet heros and if you're beating quads it's either because they let you win, the other guy can't ride, or you're racing TRX 70's. Face the facts, a trike cannot hang with a quad with the exception of ice racing and TT. Throw some whoops and jumps in there and you're toast. I'm not standing up for quads, I don't own any, I don't like them, I am merely being realistic.

Don't beleive me? Throw a quad into the MX races at trikefest and see what happens.

This topic was discussed before and I seemed to be the only realistic triker that chimed in.



Hey, you forgot about me, bro!:D Besides, i beat you to that conclusion in this thread and the other one. haha

By the way, why is it always the Kawie guys who are the realistic ones? Ever notice that?:twisted: :D

[kbreese]

They definitely seem to rip on ice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o_Y8kRfi-k

[chris200x]

They definitely seem to rip on ice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o_Y8kRfi-k

Hahaa! that's chrisD's 330... :naughty: His and JohnR's will smoke lots of those 4 wheeleed things. :TrikesOwn http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?p=729783&highlight=icefest#post729783

[Hoosier_Daddy]

They definitely seem to rip on ice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o_Y8kRfi-k
Yes, on ice 3 wheelers rock. Cool video. That wasn't even close. Around here we call that a whoopin'. :D

[cr480r]

I would say a quad definately has big advantages jumping and stabiity in corners... but I can bang through whoops on trike like nobodys business... lotsa 450 quad guys around here with hurt feelings....

[TriMotoMan]

i beat quite a few 4x4 quads when we all went mud boggin my tri moto seems to go through anything, when i race my buddies i can beat them with trikes most of the time but there are some stability issues compared to if i was riding my blaster

[Dammit!]

3 wheelers are far cooler and more fun to ride than a quad so, who cares if a quad is a bit faster on a mx track? Are any of us sponsored racers competing for some kind of championship? :lol:

By the way, even though most if not all of you will call BS on this, I have jumped over 60ft before. On a modded 200x. Not a table top. Kind of a weird almost step up kinda thing. Jump was about 5-6 feet tall and at an angle that I could hit 5th gear pinned. You wouldn't get real high off it but you could definitely cover some distance.

[Nick_R_23]

You guys are comparing apples to oranges, technology rolling off the showroom floor is obviously going to be better then 25 year old stuff. Try comparing 3 wheelers to quads that were make in the same era with the same technology. Im sure if 3 wheelers were still being made today they would be much more competitive, with redesigned frames, inverted suspension, new and bigger engines, etc.

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[Chaps80]

You guys are comparing apples to oranges, technology rolling off the showroom floor is obviously going to be better then 25 year old stuff. Try comparing 3 wheelers to quads that were make in the same era with the same technology. Im sure if 3 wheelers were still being made today they would be much more competitive, with redesigned frames, inverted suspension, new and bigger engines, etc.

-Nick :TrikesOwn

Great response here.
:beer

[oscarmayer]

yup i agree with nick. i drive a 2005 subari STi. i cut my teeth on old school top fuel cars. i had a musting ian HS and have built many a old skewl muscle car. theya re cool sound great and sometyimes pretty quick, but pound for pound my STi takes them. corners, stops and accelerates like a very hopped up muscle car but mine is not much more than stock, so yea technology is a BIG factor. today they would use chromoly tubing, and a lot of CF and chromoly stuff to wright saving. even some titanium stuff i imagine as well.

[Tri-Z 250]

To add my 2 cent worth...When you were going at it were you riding your fastest line? My guess is you fell into the trap of fallow the leader in a chase mode. Pressing the inside line instead of setting up the section to suit your fastest line. This could have also been a factor as well, besides the other points made. A good cure of this is to look ahead as if the rider wasn't there...don't focus on the rear grab bar. Always pass back right away...outside lines and late brakes. I think you proved yourself well...Who really cares whos the fastest? Going out with your 25+ yr old machine and HANGING on the BACKDOOR of todays best quad....To me thats fast enough for braggin rights. Now if he lapped you...I'd say park the BIG RED you might get hurt. When Sunday shakes out we all go back to work on Monday...So we can go back at it on Saturday:Bounce

[Bryan Raffa]

On the ice you have grip and slip.............. I can't believe how awesome RAFFA's Z hooks up on ice :D I'm sure he can take quads down with that puppy.....

the ICE levels the PLAYIN FEILD......:naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :beer :welcome:

[brapp]

its allin the conditions, i ahve run with trx250r's in tight wood son a 250sx, i have run a 350x out in the strippings with the yz426's and stuf fliek that and kept up no problem. and keep in mind i had a flat rear tire and just kept on it its allin the rider i have to so if you have someen with the skill and balls i bet a trike can keep up close to an average rider on a mx track but i'll definitly agree on ice and tt style track a trike rules!

[Bryan Raffa]

^^^^^^You are Not a average rider Brapp ,,, you got the touch:beer

[Micahdogg]

My trike was set up just like my sig shows. 20 inch turf tamers. He did have 18's on his YFZ though...his sprocket was damn near cutting a groove down the center of the trail.

Like I said, I felt better when we switched machines. His quad was an absolute pleasure to ride....and even when completely tired I was able to go much faster on it. He is so new school I don't think he's ever had to kick a machine before (LOL). I even had to start my ATC for him a few times. Then he would just putt around with a deathgrip on the bars until my plug fowled :) To me, that's the most fun...just knowing how to ride a 3 wheeled 250 two stroke, even if I don't set any records.

[brapp]

wow raffa thats probably the nicest thign anyone has ever said abotu me. its usualy your such an asshole or what a dick lol

[NewfieBish]

wow raffa thats probably the nicest thign anyone has ever said abotu me. its usualy your such an asshole or what a dick lol

LOL that's wicked! but in my opinion, the power's delivered to the back tires, not the front, so when your talkin fast, a trike can defenitely be as FAST as a quad, but when your talkin jumps n stuff, trikes obviously wouldnt compete with the quads now, but like nick said, its apples and oranges

[tri-Z ripper]

Rider/Machine AGE and Experience next! I say grip it and rip a aint scared to take on anyone not afraid to win or loose as long as i enjoy it either way!

[Micahdogg]

If that is to me, its the three wheeler in my sig. And I'm 30. I'm not a quad guy at all and just picked this three wheeler up last fall. But I've been riding dirtbikes forever.

[deathman53]

I've kept up with quads plenty of times and passed them. On a smooth track, it can be done...with the right rider and bike setup. In the long run and as the track gets worn.....the quads will beat you. Plain and simple

[leevarnado]

this trike looks to be pretty d-m fast

[beets442]

When I went against my friends YMF450 on the trails(Timberline) of PA. I was just able to keep up. We're both a 40 years old, very experienced riders and know what Micah dogg means, riding by the seat of your pants and two wheels just to keep up. I think I lost some more hair on that ride too. Don't think I'll do it again, but it was fun trying. Beets

[denn]

I don't know how or where you guys are riding, I have no prob keeping up with the NEWER 450s at all. I ride all over eastern pa's watershed authority and have NEVER seen anoher trike. I feel like I am the only one that has a trike by me. All I ride with are quads (Banshee's, yfz450's) and they are not charitable when riding.
This area is all fire roads and tight woods. I am way faster on a trike as opposed to a quad. They feel to heavy. I am 31 years old and have been on trikes since I was 6. I started on a tri-moto 175cc moved to a tri-moto 225 shaft and then to a TRI-Z when I was 13. I have been riding a Z since. No matter what I am on I ride it like its stolen. All the 4 wheeler guys always tell me "man you can really ride that Thing". Obvioulsy you can't go against science, 4 wheels are more stable. Maybe I put in a bit more effort on 3 than I would on 4 but I am either out front or right on there asses. Also these guys didn't start riding yesterday. They are seasoned quad riders. As far as the track goes, I can't comment cause I have never been to a nice professional track with a 3 wheeler. My friend is a bike rider and has a track on a seperate lot and the tabletop he has is about 45ft or so. I can do it all day long. As long as you land on the down ramp whats the difference what the hell your on. You don't even feel it. Trikes have just as much power as anything else. I know that I can go fast enough to clear it. They are very light in the air and I believe that they are more forgiving on botched landings than 4 wheels. Oh, and I am no internet hero I don't collect bikes for the sake of having them. I ride the #$it out of them till they throw up. What else are you supposed to do with them? LIVE LONG RIDE HARD

Denn

[atctim]

I find it odd how none of the actual "fast" trike guys come n here and say they are fast :)

[edog]

Dirtcrasher why don't you Grow the F up...? You don't run this board so have some respect for others besides yourself! Just because you post 100 times a day and have no Life doesn't give you the right to call people names....! No Wonder why you are single, your wife was very smart to leave you, and your last girlfriend is now Gay! Another reason is probably how you treat people......HMMMMMM!

Now that's some funny chit for a fist post.

[JohnR.]

I find it odd how none of the actual "fast" trike guys come n here and say they are fast :)

Ever hear the saying "speak softly and carry a big stick"?

:D

[chris200x]

I don't know how or where you guys are riding, I have no prob keeping up with the NEWER 450s at all. I ride all over eastern pa's watershed authority and have NEVER seen anoher trike. I feel like I am the only one that has a trike by me. All I ride with are quads (Banshee's, yfz450's) and they are not charitable when riding.
This area is all fire roads and tight woods. I am way faster on a trike as opposed to a quad. They feel to heavy. I am 31 years old and have been on trikes since I was 6. I started on a tri-moto 175cc moved to a tri-moto 225 shaft and then to a TRI-Z when I was 13. I have been riding a Z since. No matter what I am on I ride it like its stolen. All the 4 wheeler guys always tell me "man you can really ride that Thing". Obvioulsy you can't go against science, 4 wheels are more stable. Maybe I put in a bit more effort on 3 than I would on 4 but I am either out front or right on there asses. Also these guys didn't start riding yesterday. They are seasoned quad riders. As far as the track goes, I can't comment cause I have never been to a nice professional track with a 3 wheeler. My friend is a bike rider and has a track on a seperate lot and the tabletop he has is about 45ft or so. I can do it all day long. As long as you land on the down ramp whats the difference what the hell your on. You don't even feel it. Trikes have just as much power as anything else. I know that I can go fast enough to clear it. They are very light in the air and I believe that they are more forgiving on botched landings than 4 wheels. Oh, and I am no internet hero I don't collect bikes for the sake of having them. I ride the #$it out of them till they throw up. What else are you supposed to do with them? LIVE LONG RIDE HARD

Denn

Hey Denn, how you been? Ya gotta head up here to hazleton and show some of these guys.:welcome: :TrikesOwn

I lost that pic of you doin that wheelie back to your house. LOL. My ole man was doing 60 and couldn't keep up through the turns! :crazy: ;)

[denn]

Whats up chris. Its been a while. I was going through Hazleton last weekend up RT93. There looks like some good riding out there. I was with my friend and we said we were going to come back there to ride. I've been at work pretty hard lately but I got VACATION from this thursday till the 21st. My Z was laid up for a bit and I was riding the 350X. I got some free time so I swapped out cylinders on my Z and slapped in a new piston. I can't think of a better way to break it in. Let me know when your free.

Denn

[kbreese]

Hey guys, I just bought an 86 250R and my friend that I grew up riding with said he would now buy a quad so we could go riding again (we are both 36 now and its been like 20 years since we used to ride all the time). We grew up riding in NJ/PA, (I grew up near the Delaware river...not too far from Easton, PA, but in farm country. We used to ride way into PA, there was like endless riding..we'd ride along the train tracks and the pine barrens and places in between.

Anyhow, our parents still live there and that's where we were talking about going back to ride, but we weren't sure if the same places we rode would still be there. If you guys could clue me in on places to ride, that would be cool. Let me know.

Thanks,
Kbreese

[fabiodriven]

Ever hear the saying "speak softly and carry a big stick"?

:D

Exactly.

And here come the heroes....:crazy:

[JohnR.]

Its great to see someone getting back into riding kbreese but its kind of bad message board manners to hijack a thread by posting something completely off topic like that. Please take a moment to start a thread of your own in the "riding" forum.

Thanks.

John

[Saleenster]

I find it odd how none of the actual "fast" trike guys come n here and say they are fast :)

well, I would like to think I have a little something for the newer sport quads, but again, MX is not a popular thing out here, drag racing is however. His a picture of my R

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2962/picture016o.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/571/picture134.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/269/picture022l.jpg

[kbreese]

Saleenster that is one seriously badass looking R....except for that pipe which looks completely retarded, lol. Not a big fan of shaved fenders either, but thats just MHO.

John R, sorry, my bad.

[Mosh]

Exactly.

And here come the heroes....:crazy:
What does that mean?

[fabiodriven]

What does that mean?

That means, Mosh, that this guy is a hero. I don't care how many stories people have or how many trikes they've "spanked", quads are by design and eveolution just plain faster on any terrain except the aformentioned instances and a few other cases.

You show me a video of anybody landing a "45 ft double" on a trike and I'll take it back. I'm not claiming my word is the "be all- end all", but I've been there a thousand times before. Like when somebody crashes and the trike flips twice. Then you hear the guy who crashed saying how "The trike rolled about 20 times!" It's pure exageration. Landing a 45ft double on a trike would be an epic achievment. I don't claim to be "Joe Motocross", but it's just not really feasable, especially to do it "All day". We ride around Dirtcrashers little track sometimes and it's a blast. He's got a little double that I'm guessing is maybe 10 or 12 feet. I was a bit nervous about hitting it and I ride pretty aggressively from time to time. I never hit it, nor have I ever seen anybody else. And that's just 12 feet. Now let's quadruple that number. You couldn't pay me to jump a quad that far, nevermind a trike. And to claim a trike is "More stable" on a landing? Give me a break! I'm not even going to touch that one.

Like I said earlier, if I'm wrong then throw a quad into the MX races at trikefest. If guys are doing 45 ft doubles on their trikes, they shouldn't have any problems keeping up with a quad.

I defy anybody to post a video of a trike doing a 45ft double. And not some "Huervos" shot in the dark, one time only, thank god I'm still alive jump. A trike doing 45ft doubles over and over.

[Bryan Raffa]

What does that mean?

it means he wants to get Spanked..maybe I will hold onto that 48mm lectron:twisted:

[fabiodriven]

it means he wants to get Spanked..maybe I will hold onto that 48mm lectron:twisted:


:rolleyes: Umm, not sure if I get it, but OK......

[tecat-z]

Hey Fabio.... How about you make a show at tf? Lots of talent there. Mx, drag and a very technical hillclimb. Me personally, i don't ride a 3wheeler to be the fastest or best at any one thing. I simply love riding them, and their much cooler than quads. Heck, while your at it, drag out Scoot on his 85.....:cool:

[JohnR.]

OK. I'll settle this right now.


...is anyone "fast" on their 3 wheeler?

No. We are all old and slow just like our three wheelers. A trained monkey on any 4 wheeler will whip the snot out of the world's greatest rider on the world's greatest 3 wheeler.

Are we done with the pi$$ing contest now?

John

[fabiodriven]

Me? I really wasn't planning on it. I think there are alot of people on here who don't like me. Us Massholes have big mouths.

I really wouldn't mind doing it, but it's quite the drive. Drag racing is my favorite thing, too, and I've already thought about who I'd like to dragrace. My Tecate 250 is pretty hairy. The only thing to drag race around here are 4Q2 and SBLT500R on their Quadzillas. I can actually beat them on occasion. We need to run 'em again somewhere smooth. The last place was too bumpy and I had to let off in 4th gear.

I can dragrace Deepa, but I get tired of letting him catch up so he thinks he almost got me.:D

[Saul]

Me personally, i don't ride a 3wheeler to be the fastest or best at any one thing. I simply love riding them, and their much cooler than quads.

3 cheers for this statement! :TrikesOwn

[Tri-Z 250]

You show me a video of anybody landing a "45 ft double" on a trike and I'll take it back.
I defy anybody to post a video of a trike doing a 45ft double.

See you at Smith Rd come Memorial...depending on the start they got a 45' double. I'll be sure to land it all 3 laps:lol: fo ya 45' feet:rolleyes:

shens

[Mosh]

Fabio....I have seen many trikers, including myself, here on this forum jumping 20-30-35 foot gaps no problem.
There were videos posted here not more than 3 weeks ago documenting this.
Trikefest videos,from the last 3 years, as well as other videos..
So it is feasible.I have seen guys run in quad class, and beat quads, on a trike.

I am not going to pretend that a trike can hang with a fast quad rider on a MX track. It can happen, but in most cases no.
I have seen many Mediocre quad riders, get smoked by a good trike rider though.
Trails...Umm I have climbed stuff that quads wouldnt go up, and I can out run many quads in the trails.
So can a lot of other trike riders.

In any case....This thread belongs in This Vs. That forum...............

[atctim]

I defy anybody to post a video of a trike doing a 45ft double. And not some "Huervos" shot in the dark, one time only, thank god I'm still alive jump. A trike doing 45ft doubles over and over.

It is not a double, but rather a table top - but he was doing it all day long - and so were a few others - I can tell you this was 45ft no doubt. And at Lightning Raceway - same thing - guys hitting it over and over - all day long - we are taking a trip down there again in a week - I will get video of that as well.

So here is a video - look at the jump at 5:30.......that is Brandon (3 leggeddog) on a 250R

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSgW2r-umQc&feature=channel_page

[fabiodriven]

It is not a double, but rather a table top -
So here is a video - look at the jump at 5:30.......that is Brandon (3 leggeddog) on a 250R

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSgW2r-umQc&feature=channel_page

I know, I realized after I posted he said table top, not double. I was going by memory and my memory isn't too great.

Well Tim, I take it back. That was a hairy jump to say the least.shens

[torker]

Fabio....I have seen many trikers, including myself, here on this forum jumping 20-30-35 foot gaps no problem.
There were videos posted here not more than 3 weeks ago documenting this.
Trikefest videos,from the last 3 years, as well as other videos..
So it is feasible.I have seen guys run in quad class, and beat quads, on a trike.

I am not going to pretend that a trike can hang with a fast quad rider on a MX track. It can happen, but in most cases no.
I have seen many Mediocre quad riders, get smoked by a good trike rider though.
Trails...Umm I have climbed stuff that quads wouldnt go up, and I can out run many quads in the trails.
So can a lot of other trike riders.

In any case....This thread belongs in This Vs. That forum...............

This is the best statement on this whole thread. :Bounce :Bounce
Could NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER. :acr
TORKER.

[Saleenster]

Saleenster that is one seriously badass looking R....except for that pipe which looks completely retarded, lol. Not a big fan of shaved fenders either, but thats just MHO.

John R, sorry, my bad.

Well, its built to go fast and be as light as possible, so the drag pipe is a must, and the plastic get in my way.

[Autophysn]

Ha Ha, same here, I just cut my fenders, and I love it! Personal decision really

But what is it you guys call fast, speed or beating somebody up the hill?

My bike is plenty fast and gets me anywhere I want to go. She jumps with a grace that is all her own and I don't have that monthly payment most of those guys have LOL!

Bottom line,:TrikesOwn :beer :w00t:

http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr191/Autophysn/Photo_032809_007.jpg

[Bryan Raffa]

50' table top...May 11/ 08 My birthday..in Rew PA... Jonny'sX was there and took the pictures... Ya I was a little short..so about 45'..:naughty: it shure as hell can be done.. make shure your trays are in the upright position before landing..YAMAHONDAMAN

[Micahdogg]

As for jumping...I think this was pretty impressive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCGVASEppAY

[atctim]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beTN-GE-PDs&feature=channel_page

On an air cooler nonetheless!

[tecat-z]

All very nice pics and video. And are definately worthy of a hell yeah.....Raffas gapper is BIG!! Looks like a sweet track.

[denn]

My last 2 cents on this matter, Its very simple, a tabletop or even a double jump are designed to work with your suspension and have a smooth landing. Again what does it matter how many wheels you do it on. I don't care if its 100ft, all you need is the power(engine) to clear it, and BALLS (being a man) to try it, no matter how many wheels you have. When you land on the DOWN ramp of a tabletop your forward momentum takes up the harshness of the suspension. I am not saying grab a tri-moto and give it a shot, but any of the 250cc three wheelers can handle it. I do it the 45ft on a 85 tri-z with basically stock suspension. Only the warrior shock is not stock. I have stock fork springs to. Now when you come up short, thats a different story. It gets harsh when you land flat. Jesus, go on youtube and watch travis pastrana backflip a kids big wheels. Thats a piece of plastic. And he was moving to. I don't claim to be the best at anything. I know my ability and my limits, I wouldn't have the balls or the power for a 100 footer but someone may, and I am sure that a trike could handle it.

denn

[Billy Golightly]

My last 2 cents on this matter, Its very simple, a tabletop or even a double jump are designed to work with your suspension and have a smooth landing. Again what does it matter how many wheels you do it on. I don't care if its 100ft, all you need is the power(engine) to clear it, and BALLS (being a man) to try it, no matter how many wheels you have. When you land on the DOWN ramp of a tabletop your forward momentum takes up the harshness of the suspension. I am not saying grab a tri-moto and give it a shot, but any of the 250cc three wheelers can handle it. I do it the 45ft on a 85 tri-z with basically stock suspension. Only the warrior shock is not stock. I have stock fork springs to. Now when you come up short, thats a different story. It gets harsh when you land flat. Jesus, go on youtube and watch travis pastrana backflip a kids big wheels. Thats a piece of plastic. And he was moving to. I don't claim to be the best at anything. I know my ability and my limits, I wouldn't have the balls or the power for a 100 footer but someone may, and I am sure that a trike could handle it.

denn


Hehehe...Someone that knows what their talking about. Generally speaking if the jump is made worth a crap at all, and you make it to the downside landing whether its 15ft or 105ft, you'll be OK. If you land flat (short, or over) or case (up hill) then ya, its gonna hurt like a biatch. And you'll probably break something. 45ft distance wise, is really nothing, at all. Theres plenty of guys here on the forum that jump stuff from that range to about the 60ft mark (myself included) and then theres some guys that jump stuff way longer then that (deathman53's pictures he's posted before come to mind.) a long with other guys here.

[fabiodriven]

Wow- Raffa, everybody, dam good pics and vids...

[Derrick Adams]

The question was originally "Is anyone fast on their 3 wheeler?" To answer that at the risk of sounding arrogant, I will say YES, I am fast on a 3 wheeler.

[Jason Hall]

Git Em Derrick :D :D

[hawaiirider]

i ride dirt bikes first but i can keep up or beat all my friends w a 185, they wont argue. its just the rider not the bike, some of the old crusty and huevos tapes have 3whlrs doing insane gaps! i even beat quads on a mx track on a trike still have the trophy from it. in my opinion trikes hadle just as good as quads except on sidehills and jumping IS harder