View Full Version : Lifted 3Wheeler anybody?
ridindirty90
06-05-2009, 02:41 PM
I'm wanting to build a lifted big red, does anyone here have any pics or info on a lifted 3wheeler with bigger tires? I'm wanting to do about a 6" lift with 29.5 outlaw tires. I've been searching the internet and cant find a single pic of one or even someone who has done it. thanks in advance.
DeePa
06-05-2009, 02:42 PM
talking about making the trike even tippier...theres a reason why people lower trikes...
good luck with your project
dcreel
06-05-2009, 02:45 PM
Yeah but, he's ridin dirty. :lol:
SeaBass8
06-05-2009, 02:49 PM
Who built that crazy chopper trike???? Was that Saul? And I remember seeing a pic of a 6 foot crazy contraption a while back.
Who built that crazy chopper trike???? Was that Saul? And I remember seeing a pic of a 6 foot crazy contraption a while back.
Too bad about our Bruins huh?! :mad:
But yeah - the chopper is my creation ...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/SaulAce/bigredchopper/PB220703.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/SaulAce/bigredchopper/e5b3c49b.jpg
:beer Such a fun wheelie/mud/snow machine. :naughty:
I'm wanting to build a lifted big red, does anyone here have any pics or info on a lifted 3wheeler with bigger tires? I'm wanting to do about a 6" lift with 29.5 outlaw tires. I've been searching the internet and cant find a single pic of one or even someone who has done it. thanks in advance.
what part of Texas are you in?
4 or 5 years ago i lifted a 200m to use out at crosby. It was a mistake. The best three wheeler i have found for crosby type mudding is a 250sx with aggressive tires and a snorkel. Works great.
ridindirty90
06-05-2009, 03:38 PM
what part of Texas are you in?
4 or 5 years ago i lifted a 200m to use out at crosby. It was a mistake. The best three wheeler i have found for crosby type mudding is a 250sx with aggressive tires and a snorkel. Works great.
yeah i ride at crosby, I know it won't be the ideal mudding machine. I just want to do it cuz nobody has one and it would be a fun challenge to get around on.. I'm thinking 29.5x12's all around. I want a 250 BR but might do the 200s because i think its chain drive? and would be easier to lift and gear down.
Do you have any pics of the one you lifted? Thanks
ridindirty90
06-05-2009, 03:39 PM
Thats a pretty sweet chopper. lol
yeah i ride at crosby, I know it won't be the ideal mudding machine. I just want to do it cuz nobody has one and it would be a fun challenge to get around on.. I'm thinking 29.5x12's all around. I want a 250 BR but might do the 200s because i think its chain drive? and would be easier to lift and gear down.
Do you have any pics of the one you lifted? Thanks
I dont have any pics. if you do this, every time you go through a mudhole you will fall over. Also when you go through the deep water, the three wheeler will not water wheelie like the four wheeler. big lake will kill you. The front end will come up at 90 degrees at one mile an hour. I would keep it stock height for sure. the sx was the best ride out there. also, you are going to burn out your clutch with the outlaws.
there use to be a bunch of three wheelers running around out there. I loved taking the 250r through all the sand trails and submerging the SX. but for mudding out there, you cannot beat a big o Cat.
also do you have any pics of the 10" lifted 90 ? i was trying to find it over at highlifter.
things you would have a problem doing to lift it.
you lift the rear supension due to the arc of the swinger a set of 29's would be rubbing your footpeg and make the wheelbase length unreasonably short.. so a custom swinger and drive shaft would have to be fabbed probably a +4-6 to take the hight of the rear tires.
the front would be easier as you could extend the upper forks to hold the legs down lower.
also power... yea the 250 motor will turn the tires over... but not really much more, ive seen 300cc size quads with 28 get stuck in nothing due to the fact they didnt have enough power to keep the tires going with the mud stuck to them.
I know 27s fit and look good I had a set of 589's on 12 inch rims on the 250es I had for a short time...sorry no pics
ridindirty90
06-05-2009, 05:35 PM
Well as far as the swingarm and all, i'm willing to do the mods for that to work. power is one reason i'm considering the chain drive 200m. I can throw a huge sprocket on it to up the low end.
As far as the water riding i would definetly have water in the tires to keep it from floating too much. Ive got 4wheelers for trail riding I just want to build this to have somethin cool to cruz the hardpack on and hit a little water with.
Oh and i do have pics of the 90 but my pc crashed and i only have them on my IPOD, dont know how to get them back on my pc. Plus i sold and can't take any more pics.
daniel_250r
06-05-2009, 06:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTBvF58kFo8&feature=channel_page this guy has tractor tires on the back and rt 185 forks it looks jacked
MonroeMike
06-05-2009, 06:54 PM
Name Brand has a 250sx with 25"'s on it.
http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showpost.php?p=536526&postcount=11
He is wanting to put 29.5's with huge lugs and weight 50 lbs a piece. It will be difficult to accomplish this for something that will give undesirable results. I do like the SX on the youtube.
http://www.highlifter.com/product.php?pk=7799&pname=
He will have alot better luck with the 25's
like I said I fit 27's with no problem and the 589's arnt to heavy so I couldnt tell a difference how it handled, but any bigger and your looking for trouble, plus your going to KILL the stock rear end trying to keep those meats rollin.
hondahaulic
06-05-2009, 09:04 PM
since the stock size is 25 you should be able to go a little bigger like syko said about the 27's. With a trike you want flotation in the mud, so don't fill the tires with fluid. You will either want to gear down a chain driven trike, or use a trike that has a high and low range gear selector.
In deep rutted mud from 4x4's, I have found a good technique is to drop your front wheel in a rut. That means your engine cradle will be over that rut too, so you won't bottom out. Your rear tires will have traction the whole time. Two weekends ago I was cruising right through a mudhole on my 200es without a problem, and I did it 10 or so times. There were 3 big 4x4 quads trying the same mudhole. They all had big mud tires and one was even lifted. They were constanlty struggling trying to shake/push/pull themselves loose, and more than once one had to be winched out. I definitely made it through much easier every time with my 25" turf tamers on my 200es in low 2nd gear. The looks on peoples faces were priceless.
like I said I fit 27's with no problem and the 589's arnt to heavy so I couldnt tell a difference how it handled, but any bigger and your looking for trouble, plus your going to KILL the stock rear end trying to keep those meats rollin.
they measure the size before the lugs. i think they have a total of 3" on the lugs so a 25 outlaw is really a 28.
Hoosier_Daddy
06-05-2009, 10:05 PM
It's good to see pics of Saul's chopper. I remember when he first showed it here and all you could think is "that's cool, but looks dangerous". Even though it looked dangerous, the coolness factor was still there. Maybe you could have the same thing with a lifted trike. Give it a shot. Just be careful riding it.
ridindirty90
06-06-2009, 10:48 AM
He is wanting to put 29.5's with huge lugs and weight 50 lbs a piece. It will be difficult to accomplish this for something that will give undesirable results. I do like the SX on the youtube.
http://www.highlifter.com/product.php?pk=7799&pname=
He will have alot better luck with the 25's
Like I said i'm not looking for good performance in the mud, just want a lifted 3wheeler to cruz around on. I was able to make a 90cc atv pull 28" outlaws good enough to run around the main trails at crosby and shiloh ridge, so i'm sure i can make a 250 work good enough to cruz the hardpack.
Another question on the BR250, since its not chain drive is there a gear reduction available for it? probly a long shot but you never know? Maybe do some of the lower gears from the smaller trikes fit in that tranny??
Name Brand
06-07-2009, 02:32 PM
I think the bigger problem is finding the right gear reduction to turn the tires at useful speeds. It's a simple math problem to figure out what ratio you need with bigger tires; the hard part is finding the pieces to put it together. With chain drive it's far easier, swap sprockets accordingly and create new chain length.
But when I hear 29.5's, I have to imagine you don't want anything holding you back in the rough stuff. Since you mentioned crossing water; a shaft drive is far superior to a chain in that regard and many others.
You should be able to run a TRX diff in a 250BR swingarm and have a lower gear ratio. I fear that still wouldn't provide much low end torque with 29.5's.
With my extended swinger I may be able to fit 26's, maybe even 27's on the rear. I think a larger tire would hurt me though, due to the loss of torque at lower ranges.
Even if you do figure out how to get 29.5's on the back, you still need a good solution for the front.
If I wanted 29.5's on a trike, I'd cut up a four-wheeler that will already fit that size. Chop the front off, attach a steering stem and fab up frame tubes. Maybe use an R frontend since I hear they are pretty tall. You could get shaft drive and a bigger engine too.
brapp
06-07-2009, 02:41 PM
first off if you try and lift the big red you will run into the problem of driveline angles its such a short drive shaft if you extent an inch firther you will bind your universal joint and it will wear and brake bigtime. the only way i can think of to do it is portal drives on the back .
tbirdscott
06-07-2009, 09:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTBvF58kFo8&feature=channel_page this guy has tractor tires on the back and rt 185 forks it looks jacked
Looks like the 200S i made last spring, had 14" bias ply town & Country tires on the back and the rear tire off of a TT600 on the front. Went anywhere, through snow and water it would keep plugging along no problems. Though I did end up reversing the wheels to widen it out some in the rear.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/tbirdscott/trikes/200s/P6120010.jpg?t=1244423981
Scott
brapp
06-08-2009, 08:35 AM
and gthe portal drives would give you your lift and gear reduction if so desired.
ridindirty90
06-09-2009, 02:39 PM
I think the bigger problem is finding the right gear reduction to turn the tires at useful speeds. It's a simple math problem to figure out what ratio you need with bigger tires; the hard part is finding the pieces to put it together. With chain drive it's far easier, swap sprockets accordingly and create new chain length.
But when I hear 29.5's, I have to imagine you don't want anything holding you back in the rough stuff. Since you mentioned crossing water; a shaft drive is far superior to a chain in that regard and many others.
You should be able to run a TRX diff in a 250BR swingarm and have a lower gear ratio. I fear that still wouldn't provide much low end torque with 29.5's.
With my extended swinger I may be able to fit 26's, maybe even 27's on the rear. I think a larger tire would hurt me though, due to the loss of torque at lower ranges.
Even if you do figure out how to get 29.5's on the back, you still need a good solution for the front.
If I wanted 29.5's on a trike, I'd cut up a four-wheeler that will already fit that size. Chop the front off, attach a steering stem and fab up frame tubes. Maybe use an R frontend since I hear they are pretty tall. You could get shaft drive and a bigger engine too.
Well i'm not looking for a mud bogger, it just needs to get around the main trails where i ride, not looking to bury it and see how far it will go i have other quads to ride. but i will need some type of gear reduction, thats why i'm leaning towards a chain drive model. I would prefer the br 250 but a 200 might have to work. Plus it would be so easy to lift the rear with no shafts to worry about. the front should be fairly easy.
wich honda trikes have the high/low selector? I know the 110 does, do the bigger ones have that too? I owned a big red 250 years ago but i cant remember.
I still can't beleive NOBODY has any pics of this, i know somebody has lifted a 3wheeler more than an inch. lol
ridindirty90
06-09-2009, 02:41 PM
and gthe portal drives would give you your lift and gear reduction if so desired.
What is a portal drive? can't find anything on it.
portal drive is what is on some tractors it ataches to the axle and uses chains or gears to go to the wheel and in turn acts as a lift for it as well.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f220/nplocek/Unimog/IMG_0018.jpg
The Goat
06-09-2009, 02:57 PM
they do make gear reductions for the 250es...it's a gearing swap within the tranny. search on trx300 gearing swap over on highlifter.
ridindirty90
06-09-2009, 03:09 PM
oh ok I just call those chain hubs.
10-4 on the gear swap, i figured there had to be something out there.
trikerooster
10-11-2009, 05:56 PM
I remember when Me and my brother were jumping THE big red. We hit 30'
We hit 80' on the 200X. It felt like we were going to brake are wrists on big red.
I want to make some videos jumping my R. People really think that you can't jump trikes.
MudBug
10-11-2009, 07:45 PM
heres my lifted 85 big red. Its been like this for a while now and havent had any problems with the driveshaft yet, but I'm concerned a little. I just fabbed up a bottom shock mount, I think its an inch and a half but I dont remember. made the bike 20X better in the mud, snow , or ANYTHING. gained some clearance but i'm putting a bigger (taller) tire on the front to really jack her up. hope you like it! :welcome:
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/liftedbigred001.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/liftedbigred002.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/liftedbigred004.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/liftedbigred003.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/liftedbigred005.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/liftedbigred006.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/liftedbigred007.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/liftedbigred008.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/liftedbigred009.jpg
daniel_250r
10-11-2009, 07:51 PM
^^^i'm disgusted by that redneck engineering, my poor big red can only be jacked up with bigger tires
MudBug
10-11-2009, 07:57 PM
where's the smiley that has a giant middle finger?
hawaiirider
10-12-2009, 03:43 AM
dude if you want a trike that works with bigger tires use a 350x. It will fit the tires and have power to pull with the option of re-gearing. that or do it right and stuff a z400 quad motor or raptor motor in sport trike, then you will have the power of a modern day bike.
greythorn3
10-12-2009, 06:40 AM
wow you should have put that mount more inline with the shock, looks like it will rip it off the tube its so far back.
MudBug
10-12-2009, 08:13 AM
yeah it was just a quick thing , but it is welded on top of the original shock mount thats why it looks like its leaning back so much. I dont think I'm keepiong it like this, maybe when I do over the engine, ill put hr down. It actually handles better than stock believe it or not
nicker71
11-30-2009, 09:25 PM
I bought a 200s this weekend for $100. I think i may try and lift it some. Not sure how high yet. Im going to do this all on a very tight budget. I also want to build duels for it. Ive already put some old 250r hubs on that I had laying around.
Thorpe
11-30-2009, 09:48 PM
Larry the Cable Guy would be proud of that BR...
MudBug
11-30-2009, 10:19 PM
Larry the Cable Guy would be proud of that BR...
mine? whats so bad about it, if its been done over a year with no problems?
Degoragon
02-12-2016, 10:08 PM
Too bad about our Bruins huh?! :mad:
But yeah - the chopper is my creation ...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/SaulAce/bigredchopper/PB220703.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/SaulAce/bigredchopper/e5b3c49b.jpg
:beer Such a fun wheelie/mud/snow machine. :naughty:
Sweet! also, I see your a Mopar guy! awesome!
big yeller
02-13-2016, 02:14 AM
Resurrected a 7 year old thread!
Scootertrash
02-13-2016, 08:58 AM
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LOL!
I'll donate!
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