Im going to put this thing in the trash

**chad712** · 08-26-2009, 07:52 PM

okay i will try a new spark plug and see wut happens. i dont kno. i will have to check i just pulled the top end off and steel wooled it there was quite a bit of build up around the head gasket and its almost seperated from its three layers. Would this affect it or can i just clean it and put it back in? REally guys i appreciate the help i thought for sure everyonne was just going to ignore me and i was just going to have to figure it out for myself. I went outside and i pulled the top end off. It did run when i put it away tho (had to roll downhill) so its probably the spark plug but it does have spark.

**chad712** · 08-26-2009, 08:00 PM

Okay yea sorry for the cussing i was frustrated. I went out and pulled the top end off and cleaned it up a bit. Yea everything is clean i can see right thru them all even my oil injectorwas clean and im not even using it lol. I am going to try some new fuel (again) and a new spark plug thanks guys I will probably be bak for more advice when i get thos two things eliminated ha. Two strokes i hate um but i love um.

**lndy650** · 08-26-2009, 08:08 PM

what exactly did you use steel wool on?? since you have the top end off what shape is the piston in does it have good clearance?

**chad712** · 08-26-2009, 08:15 PM

just around where the gasket was and around the spark plug int the top end had alot of build up i washed it off with some starting fluid it looks brand new. the piston looks okay no knicks or dings or chips and it has a lil bit of clearance around the piston but if you mean spark plug to pistoni it shoudl be good cause its cupped. Is it bad to use steel wool?

**whyzee** · 08-26-2009, 08:28 PM

do a simple spark plug test.
pull the plug from the cylinder ( see if it is really wet) , leave it connected to the rubber boot, make sure it is grounded by having it touching the cylinder while you pull hard. have someone watching the sparkplug for a nice fat blue spark.
If it has spark and the plug was dry, reinsert , your problem is eslewhere, but not far.
If the plug was soaking wet, get a new one, do the plug test like above to see if you are getting spark. if you have spark , you have flooded the clyinder of fuel.
with the plug out , pull the bike until the cylinder is dry ( put your finger over the spark plug hole and pull. your finger should be dry )
insert NEW plug , pull hard , and go ride

**rotaxtwin** · 08-26-2009, 08:35 PM

Chad712,
Make sure that you check the plug wire. They twist into the coil and over the years of vibration the wires inside the plug wire get all jacked up and you get no spark. As far as no gas coming out of your carb when you move the throttle; a carb of this type needs vacuum to pull the fuel/air mix into the cylinder. This vacuum is created by the engine either when you are starting it or it is running. As far as float adjustment as long as the float bowl fills without coming out of the overflow it should be okay to get the thing running. The float just stops the fuel coming from the tank when the float bowl is full, as the engine uses fuel the float opens the needle/seat and the bowl fills up again. It should be adjusted to the proper level but for now as long as the bowl fills you should be good.

**daniel_250r** · 08-26-2009, 08:53 PM

i would start checking the voltage and maybe get a new spark plug wire, i have had it were i would have spark but it only appeared to be strong and couldnt not combust fuel

**daniel_250r** · 08-26-2009, 08:56 PM

i would put the steel wool down it leaves dust wich will score up the piston and it will wreak havoc on the bearings

**lndy650** · 08-26-2009, 09:09 PM

its ok to clean off carbon and corrosion i was just making sure you werent sanding the bore or something... just make sure not to get dust in the bore.

**Lukeatc185** · 08-26-2009, 09:14 PM

u said something about starting it going downhill? do u mean like push starting it?

**Lukeatc185** · 08-26-2009, 09:16 PM

if you had to run it downhill then pop it into gear to get it running.. what makes you think that after it sitting for a couple years it will run from the pullstart lol. anywho usualy when you need to push start it.. its a compression or a dying stator problem. get a new plug and try. if not try push starting it again. if it runs check compression and ohm your stator.

**Yamaha_Rules69** · 08-26-2009, 11:21 PM

And usually, when you take the head off, you should replace the head and base gaskets! They have probably been on it since it was new!

**jeffatc250r** · 08-26-2009, 11:46 PM

For some reason THIS image came to mind after reading this thread

**chad712** · 08-26-2009, 11:49 PM

And that is exactlly how i felt ha.

**chad712** · 08-27-2009, 04:39 AM

Okay this is driving me nuts hopefully someone can help. Tir moto 125 Two stroke... have spark (new plug), compression, and the cleanest carburetor in the state. I have gas in carburator is full but it seems nothing comes out.. i cleaned the pilot and the jets and can see right thru them. When i pull it over a few times the plug is dry for some reason. the reed vavles open and close.. i just dont think any gas is coming in or something. Could it be needle valve or something? ether will make it pop but no start. Any ideas? Also sometimes when your pull starting it wil grab and try to break you whole body. WTH is that all about?

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