anyone ever do/try a back flip on a 3wheeler?

[Saul]

for some reason the landing seems to be the sketchiest part to me.

Yeah - I don't foresee any problems hitting the ramp, it's being 25-30 feet in the air, crossing a 40 foot gap and landing that single front tire (and forks) that would get me alittle 'nervous'

[Billy Golightly]

Anyone whos seen me ride in the dirt knows I don't have any trouble doing 50-60ft gaps on either a quad or a trike. I've never jumped a ramp before but first time for everything I suppose.

[inv3ctiv3]

Anyone whos seen me ride in the dirt knows I don't have any trouble doing 50-60ft gaps on either a quad or a trike. I've never jumped a ramp before but first time for everything I suppose.

Not saying it's impossible just saying it would take an extremely skilled rider with huge balls haha. I would never try anything close to that

[Saul]

Anyone whos seen me ride in the dirt knows I don't have any trouble doing 50-60ft gaps on either a quad or a trike. I've never jumped a ramp before but first time for everything I suppose.

You were how high in the air when clearing these '60ft' gaps?

[Billy Golightly]

8-10ft? Something of that nature? The biggest table top at my track was a 95fter and I was almost clearing that with my TRX when I quit riding on it. Air height between the take off and the landing, other than wow factor, doesn't really mean much. If the landing is made right and you put it down on it you could pretty much land from a 100ft up and not wreck. Its all about rolling the energy forward and not slamming it flat into the ground. Thats why you dont ever see anyone jump a ramp (or anything else with size to it) to flat ground. The physics arent on your side if you arent landing down hill.

[rt_linn]

makes me wanna get out on my 350X and have an attempt at it to post on YouTube or something, just so i could be (possibly) the FIRST PERSON TO BACKFLIP A TRIKE!! and by the grace of god i would somehow land and not kill myself

[Escanabajosh]

lol.....rt_linn, i was thinking the same thing....lol, i live close to scott murray and he's got a foam pit so i was thinking about droppin him a line see if i can try it out.
check out sickairfmx.com hes the 2nd person to land the double in comp. happen less than a year ago.

also me and the ol lady don't see eye to eye on the 3wheeler thing,she thinks i don't need more then one casue i can't ride 2 at the same time anyways....well i was joking with her about the whole back flip thing and i told her tax time i might have to get a 250r just so i can try it..........don't mean i can't buy the wheeler and then "chicken out" (doubt i'd acctualy try it, just a reason toi get the machine).

[Dammit!]

I don't remember who this is but somebody posted this ramp jump on the forum probably three years ago. No tricks or anything but nice air for a 350x. You can see the landing wasn't that hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGIr98-eIWg

[Saul]

Air height between the take off and the landing, other than wow factor, doesn't really mean much. If the landing is made right and you put it down on it you could pretty much land from a 100ft up and not wreck.

Oh really? So you don't think that the higher up you are in the air - the more force & velocity you'll create as you come down?

Drop 300 pounds out of the sky from 5 feet - then drop it from 40 feet ... see which once is travelling fastest and gunna make the greatest impact when it lands. Unless common physics are different where you live I'd imagine the 300 pounds coming down from 40 feet is gunna hit much harder then at 5 feet.

Somebody might get lucky and land a three wheeler once, maybe twice off a real ramp before destroying it and themselves - but they won't be hitting the ramp over and over while doing tricks midair like a rider can on a modern quad with proper suspension.

I personally couldn't let my love for 3w's blind me to simple facts that a 3w just could never compete with a modern quad at jumping and/or on a MX track. It's just utter foolishness to think otherwise.

It's the same when 3&4 wheel action put Jimmy White on his Tecate against Gary Denton on his quadrunner - Denton utterly smoked White in every event they matched them up in - TT, MX etc etc - it wasn't even close.

All that said - I would love to see someone here backflip a trike, freestyle a trike, hit a ten foot ramp and clear a huge gap.

[Micahdogg]

I'll kick in some cash on supplying Travis with a 86 250R. It'll make mine more valuable when he's done with it

[Billy Golightly]

Oh really? So you don't think that the higher up you are in the air - the more force & velocity you'll create as you come down?

Drop 300 pounds out of the sky from 5 feet - then drop it from 40 feet ... see which once is travelling fastest and gunna make the greatest impact when it lands. Unless common physics are different where you live I'd imagine the 300 pounds coming down from 40 feet is gunna hit much harder then at 5 feet.

Somebody might get lucky and land a three wheeler once, maybe twice off a real ramp before destroying it and themselves - but they won't be hitting the ramp over and over while doing tricks midair like a rider can on a modern quad with proper suspension.

I personally couldn't let my love for 3w's blind me to simple facts that a 3w just could never compete with a modern quad at jumping and/or on a MX track. It's just utter foolishness to think otherwise.

It's the same when 3&4 wheel action put Jimmy White on his Tecate against Gary Denton on his quadrunner - Denton utterly smoked White in every event they matched them up in - TT, MX etc etc - it wasn't even close.

All that said - I would love to see someone here backflip a trike, freestyle a trike, hit a ten foot ramp and clear a huge gap.

Your taking what I'm saying out of context. I'm talking specifically jumping. I'm not a retard, I know that a quad is going to be faster around an MX track than a trike with equal riders.



If I jump off of a 10ft high ramp, gain 12ft of air and land on a on landing that is 15ft high (a step up), I've only lost 7ft in height from the highest point (where you start to fall) regardless of the fact that in between the ramp and the landing, there is 22ft under me. THATS what I'm talking about. And if the landing is steep enough and you set it down on it right, even the "fall height" isn't that big of a deal. Pickup a hot wheels, hold it over a bathroom sink and drop it flat out of the air, level with the top of the counter. Not very pretty, huh? Now hold it nose down, and let it roll across the side wall of the sink...it will more or less ride down the wall and then get to the bottom corner and transition itself back to the flat bottom. This is exagerated of course, because there are no vertical landings or anything even close to vertical. And steeper landings are more dangerous for numerous reasons, but the principal is the same. The higher up you go, the steeper the landing you need, and it'll be smooth. I broke my arm on my first TRX back in like 2001 or whenever it was because I was too stupid to understand this. I took the loader and made a 4ft high dirt pile and started jumping off of it flat landing out in the grass. Wht was my top height, like 7-8ft? But it was a flat landing. And it hurt. If that would have been 7-8ft to correctly built downward sloped angle, it would have been cake.



Doug, that was a good video. I had forgotten about that.

[Saul]

I clearly see where you are coming from now Billy. So yeah - under those ideal circumstances a trike 'jump' should be a piece of cake since you're not really landing from any great distance or doing anything special.

Meh - it's still all internet talk until someone goes out and tries it anyways.

But disagreeing about the jumping & landing capabilities of a trike VS a modern quad is plain silly. IMHO.

[fabiodriven]

I got into a pissing match a few months ago about this very subject and was proven wrong on all parts. There are people on here who can and will jump very high and very far and they'll do it over and over.

[Mosh]

If you have seen a MX bike, Sled and quad backflip, you have seen all there is too see.
Just another heavy object doing a backflip..

To ask someone else (that doesnt normally ride a trike) to attempt this type of stunt, coming from a "everyday" trike rider, would be like, being a Professional carpenter, but hiring another carpenter to build a house for you, because you are too scared to try it yourself.

If I was Travis, and got a bunch of email request's for a trike backflip...From a bunch of trike riding owners.....My response would be this...

"Nah go ahead,and try that yourself..Let us know when and where, and we may show up to film Your efforts"..

Crazy thing is..I bet he would do it, if someone donated the trike to use..
Maybe offer that option in your requests.

[Billy Golightly]

, I'm not nitpicking, but I want you to understand. THose aren't "ideal circumstances" they are the circumstances that 99.9% of all big jumpers adhere to. Checkout some of the arena cross racing videos, and look how steep the landings are, and how low the front end is compared to the rear when they land. Its because they are putting that front wheel down first and ROLLING the force forward with them instead of sinking it flat down into the ground. Ask someone to ride flat off an "aussie comp ramp", just off of it- much-less jump it and gain height without a landing. They'll laugh and say no way. But with a landing they'll hit it in 4th gear pinned and gain an extra 15-20ft of height off the top off the ramp. Why? Because the landing is easier