whats better time sert or helicoil

[Escanabajosh]

i'm planning on fixing the 1/2" threaded tapper for a oil plug that came on my 250sx.....it worked for a little while but now it leaks like crazy. i picked up the new drain plug and washer (around $2.50, i figure sweet ain't gunna cost much to fix!)

so i started to price the time sert and they want $100 for the kit! helicoil is like $50. i read the "how-to" threads on here about the two but since i'm laid off right now so i don't have much money let alone $100 for a tool i won't use much.

any ideas or tips? i put a add on CL for a used one....but i got $50 and i wanted to do it today.

[i58829]

keen-serts are pretty affordable, and they use std threads, i dont know how well it work for a drain plug but if you ground it down so it didn't stick up and plug sat flush on the case i think it would be fine. Then you can just use a std tap.

Try calling a local engine builder or machine shop. Worst case you can switch it to SAE and use something readily available for plumbing if you're in a bind...

[atc500x]

If you have a 1/2 thread now,you can bought a M14x1.25or1.5 tap and do new thread with a new plug,or go to M16x1.25 or 1.5.

[MDFMac]

that is way to much money for what your tring to do

try a good local truck garage they normally have what you would need.

[Dirtcrasher]

Every time you need a thread fixed, get a kit (if you can afford one). In time you have 6 kits that fit 90% of all threads!!

Nope, not cheap but neither is the part with the junk thread.

I love helicoils, never had one fail (DC knocks on wood) and many times, I buy the tap, coils and already have the drill in my index and wind in the helicoil with a small flat blade screwdriver. So it costs me 15$ for the tap give or take and the coils are either under a 1$ or a bit more. I buy packs of 10 of the coils. Or you can buy 5 kits at 45-65$ a kit...........

So I can pay 100$ for all 5 normally sized taps and an assortment of helicoils, if I don't need a pretty box/chart and drill bit.

ANY fully walled insert is gonna be optimum over a coil, but the Helicoils work just fine IMHO.........

[MagicJames]

If you go to advance auto, they have kits for $20-$30. You can buy the tap and everything for your specific size.

[SWIGIN]

helicoils are great, just fixed my drain plug with one.

like DC said, i never had one fail.

[ceaserthethird]

Time Sert -

[300rman]

just re-tap to the next size up bolt.......

[Maico]

Time Serts

[Escanabajosh]

well the guy at the parts store saved me a few bucks. showed me somthing called a piggy back drain plug. it's a bolt a little bigger then 1/2" and it self taps into the hole. the middle of that bolt is drilled out and has a smaller bolt in it that you remove to drain the oil. cost $10 even for the bolt and a tube of loctite.

i'm giving it a try. right next to the oil drain hole there is a little raised part, can i grind that down and not affect anything? figure i better ask befor i do! the piggyback plug is bigger and will hit that raised part so it won't seal up tight. i have a angle grinder and was going to make it as close to level with the case.....

[Mosh]

Just get the helicoil kit and do it right.

That 10$ Hokey part could ruin a set of 400$ cases.

[Escanabajosh]

i wanted to do the helicoil but i just didn't have the extra cash. i ended up using a small cold chisle and removed the little lip and then sanded down the little that was left. i ran the bolt thru,then took it out and put some lock tite on. seams to have worked perfect. snugged up real good. i'm letting the loctite sit for a few hours till i add oil. if it don't leak, it will have been worth it i think.

[TrailerRider]

I use helicoil but I am curious what your talking about? Got alink or pic or name etc? This would be a good thing to keep in my toolbox when out on the road or riding. A quick fix to get ya home..

[Escanabajosh]

this should bring ya right to the web site. i bought it at carquest for a little over $5. the washer they gave with the plug is small so the guy behind the counter gave me a little bigger plastic washer. i havent put the oil in yet but it seams like it will work good. i whouldn't ever have to take out the big one so it's kinda like a external helicoil.....i guess. the guy at fastanal said helicoils might back out taking the plug out, don't have to worry about that with this thing, just put a wrench on the big one if the small one is on to tight so it don't back the whole thing out.


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