cold cutters

[ditchmud]

Gonna get some screws soon, and I have no idea on what length screw works best and how many will I need to buy approx.

[atc sam]

what tires do you have

[Tri-Z 250]

20lbs worth

[JohnR.]

We need A LOT more info to give you an accurate answer. What type tires? What size? What machine? What are you going to be using the machine for? Racing? Playing?

[Yamatrike400]

I am wondering the same thing ditch mud. I would like to get into ice racing. I have an 81' 300R and 20" cheng shins on alum. rims are going on it. Will probably be a combo of racing/playing. Any suggestions for me John?

[JohnR.]

I would start with a box of 1000 1" screws.

[Yamatrike400]

J/w but Would 3/8" rip out?

[JohnR.]

Even 1" ones will rip out sometimes but 3/8" will definitely be spitting out regularly on something with some power that is getting slid around. If it were just to put some in something like a Big Red so that you can putter around on the ice then I'd say you'd probably be OK with the small ones. Also, pumping the tire pressure way up while you're studding them helps retain the screws (only the longer ones that penetrate the tire).

[Yamatrike400]

Do you put slime or anything in the tires? Silicone on the screws?

[4cfed]

shouldnt need 1000 of them, i ran 200 per tire on a quad and you could drop the clutch and damn near flip over backwards!!!

i know here in wisconsin, the ice racers run one screw per lug on the chin shing tires, fronts dont nearly need as man as the rear, pretty much make apattern down the center 3 rows of lugs,
the tires on the back of my 200x were on a piped raptor 660 and it had 1/2'' kold cutters and i think it only ripped out about 8 studs between the two tires,

so il be running ether 1/2s or 3/4s in my 200x, and halfs in the cr125 ( i know they will rip out on the bike but i dont want to replace tubes come spring

[max]

Ditch. Get them hooked up. Im going to put together a ride down here at Portage Lakes. Its about 10 minutes from my house. Its a chain of lakes that are completely legal to ride on.......O and did I mention there are 7 bars right on the lakes to ride to and get some beverages.

[atctim]

Max - let me know when you do this. I plan on stuffing some tires for raffas this year - and would love to come hang / ride with you and hit up those 7 establishments.

[ditchmud]

Ok I have some 18" turff tamers. But I'm thinking that they aren't going to work well because they seem to be of a softer compound. Let me look at what else I got.
What length stud? And Sam what was that glue you used to help retain screws in your tires?

[JohnR.]

If you get the right tires (Cheng Shin 826's) and 1" studs you don't have to worry about gluing the studs in or anything as long as you put them in the way I mentioned above. I stand by my suggestion to get the box of 1000. The rear tires take a lot of screws if you put one in each knob and you can always use them on your next set. Plus the box of 1000 comes in a nice plastic case that will keep them contained.

[4cfed]

johnR or anyone else, ever studded fast trekkers??? im doing mine in a few weeks, and wondering if anyone found or knows a good way to stud them like.. heavyer on the studs in the muddle or on the outter lugs.. i know how to stud tires..

i just want something thats gonna work for play riding, with the ocassional ice drag and of course ice oval!!! i plan on spending alot of time sideways this year!