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Thread: atc 200es running bad

  1. #16
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    there's no "choke circuit" it's manual choke. is the choke on or off?

    you probelby need to lower the needle by raizing the clip up 1 notch. also what is the mixture screw set too? it should be turned in till stops and then turn out 1 1/2 turns. and start from there. adjsut the idle screw on the side by turning it out slowly to lower the idle.

    does the bike smoke a lot?
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  2. #17
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    ok the choke is not on, it only starts when the moons are in orbit, i can only get a sputter when trying to start it. also my head gasket started leaking, why though? i just put it on only 6 hours ago of riding ( i ran it just header so i couldnt tell it was running rich) and it only smokes black wich is unburnt fuel, my only conclusion is that it doesnt have enough compression due to the leaking gasket to fully combust the fuel
    proud owner of a trx300ex quad and an 85 atc 70

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    bump......
    proud owner of a trx300ex quad and an 85 atc 70

  4. #19
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    sounds like you need to engauge someone locally for assistance. it could be any number of things.

    did you set the carb to factory honda specs?
    (mixture screw on the bottom) turn in till it stops but not hard jsut softly, and then turn out 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 turns out.
    turn the idle screw in 3 turns to get the rpm's up, then slowly turn out. idling hi will ont hurt. let he bike warm up first then adjust the idle.
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  5. #20
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    so i got the idea of a hotter plug , went down bought a dr7es and put it in, runs good now!, plug is a hint too rich but that looking at it very closely, i let it run for a good 5 minutes same as before with good revs. so i'm guessing i just have a weaker coil so it wasnt fully combusting the fuel because it just doesnt make sense that it would dump in tons of fuel with the proper carb on the right settings. the idle is still a bit high but i may move the needle clip up one
    proud owner of a trx300ex quad and an 85 atc 70

  6. #21
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    alright got the chance to take it out for a spin it takes a while for it to settle down after a rev and the idle remains high still i sprayed wd40 around the carb boots and nothing could valves cause this? i bought new ones lapped them but never adjusted them
    proud owner of a trx300ex quad and an 85 atc 70

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    also the throttle cable is not sticking either so thats not it help!!!!!
    proud owner of a trx300ex quad and an 85 atc 70

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    if you didn;t adjsut them correctly,then yes they can cause issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniel_250r View Post
    well i put another plug in it fired up and same thing it back fired alot idled high and rough, and after it died the plug was black and dry
    If you are having backfire and a HIGH idle and its rough, well I can say I own a 1984 honda atc200es big red, I restored it from the ground up, i will be posting pix soon and I had a similar problem and it was the needle jet and the pulsar unit was not timed right. Anyhow look behind your pulse generator cover, pulsar unit is out of time. It may be firing at the wronge time causing a high rev and backfire! that should do the trick.

  10. #25
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    alright thanks i will check the the clearance on the pulsar and the timing, the carb is brand spankin new and its running a cobra pipe! this should be a mean lean machine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniel_250r View Post
    alright got the chance to take it out for a spin it takes a while for it to settle down after a rev and the idle remains high still i sprayed wd40 around the carb boots and nothing could valves cause this? i bought new ones lapped them but never adjusted them
    what,never adjusted the valves?what.
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  12. #27
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    yea i know, i'm lazy! i will adjust them asap i just need to buy a feeler gauge, i will go out and see if the ignition timing is correct
    proud owner of a trx300ex quad and an 85 atc 70

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    any one wanna explain how to set the ignition timing? the manual is confusing
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  14. #29
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    alrighty i got the timing set and it seems to be much better, when i took the cover off the timing was 180 off, how did this thing even run?
    proud owner of a trx300ex quad and an 85 atc 70

  15. #30
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    alright it was running good, i let it idle for a bit and it died and has no spark now to test the electrics dammit!!!
    proud owner of a trx300ex quad and an 85 atc 70

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