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    It really stinks that little by little our favorite sport will disappear........

    The day that only people with allot of cash can own trikes, is a day I'll be very sad to see. Unfortunately, they are all I enjoy riding.

    How long will MAIER be making fenders for? who knows. But when that ends, I guess trash can lids will be on the DC "list to do"

    Until then, I'll still beat the snot out of mine and fix it as best I can; adapting newer parts as I go.

    If 3 crate motors can't last me 25 more years, I have a problem By then, I'll be to old and sore to ride anyhow.

    BTW, last year those 87 seats were available at 200$ a pop and I got 3 maybe there gonezo now

    Those NOS parts are worth every dime to the people that want them, fortunately, I don't want them. But someday.......................................
    All our government does is distract us while they steal from us, misspend our tax $ and ruin our country

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    I know I'm probably going to draw the wrath of Pete and all his friends here, but userj8670, I'm with you, man.

    Which came first, the super-rare parts, or the very small number of individuals hoarding them all so they *couldn't* be purchased anywhere else and these prices can be charged? Dunno, you tell me.

    I'm just another guy just trying to keep my machines running without busting my wallet. I'll never be a mint-condition restorer, so maybe the concept is beyond me. But if it gets to the point that I'll need to spend 700 bucks for a gas tank, I'll say screw it and part out my trikes for a 500% profit.

    The guy was just expressing his opinion and you all busted on him. That's the only reason I had to jump in.
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    God knows they're not looking to make any effort to do anything, never mind move their foot to shift. If there was something that dispensed Cheetos every time they shifted that might be a different story. Welcome to America, where the biggest is best and even fat people who are too lazy to shift can climb a mountain.

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    I understand how rare some of these parts are. I just can't believe they are pulling that kind of money. I guess I too am in another category. Kudos to Pete.... nice website with alot of nice stuff.

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    Well i hate to have an opinion here, but to anyone that hates the price of NOS items be glad you're not looking for an uncommon mopar part like 71 340 exhaust manifolds (i can't afford them used), let alone a very rare aftermarket only direct connection piece. Although the prices are out of my reach i think someone will pay it. How many NOS pieces are left? Also there are plenty of 'parts' machines floating around and the average joe that wants to ride his 3 wheeler isn't going to be looking for a rare NOS piece that costs a premium so he can install it, then swamp his machine in a pond and take pics of it dripping with mud...
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    There is a chasm between collectors and people like me....between the people turning 3-wheelers into rich-boy "classics" and rarities(not all collectors are that way).....and the people that want to see them on the trails for 20 more years.

    One group will inevitably cause the other to become extinct.
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    '84 ATC70.....my 8-y.o. son's ride

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    Hey Pete, A little off topic but did you ever have a chance to scan that info for me for my Mugen resto??
    3 CR500R's and counting. Do I really need 4???
    Do I really need 9 Tigers?
    Laegers ATC500R
    DO NOT send any thing to whats his face (dirt-face/crasher) here on the board. What a scum bag. He screwed (stole) money from me and screwed me on my ME360 and Hondaline 300R engine rebuilds.

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    Guys just like with restoring a classic car you can go the cheaper route (which most who drive their cars do) and get remanufactured parts or if you want original parts you pay big money for them because you want your restoration to truely be an original machine. For anyone that wants to take their trike out and really use it I am sure you dont need to buy original parts in near perfect condition, for your purpose you can go with the cheaper route and get most everything you need that has been remanufactured. If anything Pete is helping by finding the parts to put some machines back to factory condition.

    By the way Pete that is a beautiful collection of ATCs and ATVs
    1986 350x
    1985 250es Big Red
    1985 200m - sold
    1984 225dx - sold
    JCPenny Scat Tracker
    1977 atc 90
    2002 custom Suzuki Volusia
    1983 XL250R
    1975 XL175 (needs alot of work)
    1965 S90

    Proud Owner of 1 Set of Trailpros

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotorsports View Post
    exactley right mosh,
    I personally know how long Pete has been collecting these parts and for the most part he paid top money for them so like he said he isnt in it for the money . I love how people get all upset over someones price on anything if you dont like it turn your head and walk away it is not for you then . It has been proven over and over again these types of parts can comand whatever price tag you put on them they are just that impossible to find . I have to explain this to people every week who email me for a price on a "showroom restoration" 86 250r for example and I quote them 15K . 5 out of 10 people email me back some nasty remark , but the other 5 understand what it takes to build a true showroom quality restoration this means as close as we can come to OEM Honda build specs right down to that last nut and bolt , these are the people that need these parts and I am more than thrilled to see pete is even offering them it takes alot of searching out of my job and i will never try to beat him up on any price he gives they are what they should be . I love the remark saying what about the poor 3 wheeler guy who wants to restore his trike my suggestion would be quality used parts or maier plastics if avalible you build within your means why should someone feel bad and drop prices on not hard to find parts but near impossible to find parts to help out a build that most likley wont ever be at the level these parts should be used on . no matter what the hobby is you will see these types of remarks when it comes to money , we all must rememeber these parts will NEVER EVER be offered again by any of the big 4 ever again and there are very few quality nos parts left .
    Couldn't have said it any better, finding parts for anything that is not made anymore is both expensive and very hard.
    1985 Honda 200x
    1986 Honda TRX350D - Gone but not forgotten 1982 Honda 185s*sold* 1985 200x*sold* 1983 200x*sold* 1985 ATC70*sold* 2002 Honda 400EX*sold*

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    It seems this argument is one that will always come up and that all the rationalizing in the world will never make people understand.

    Pete's site is actually a dream for the hardcore collector who just has to have that perfect part....whether its ATC's vintage cars or a stickley mission light. (sure there are many who dont know what that is)....just because someone doesnt want or cant drop 3000.00 on a light doesnt mean their house is dark...or cant pick up a repro at walmart for 14.99.....In all areas of life there is the high end area and ATC's are no exception.

    Let me put it this way ....I know where that tach came from....what it took to find it...how about several months of contacting every dealer in Canada...I know what he paid for it ....would barely profit anything...NOS ORIGINAL RARE is huge...people have searched for years for certain things and just cant find them....The parts he has are near extinct....translate that into the car collector world...all my years collecting I have NEVER seen a site like his!!!!!!

    On the same note I think its natural for people to protect there investments...I paid big time for my TIGER stuff ...I get emails quite often for copies of my rare parts....do I want people copying my super rare TIGER parts... ...of course not... Is is hoarding...no ...simply collecting rare items for a one off collection. I tell people who work on my tiger stuff to keep it low key.......It was my investment of time and money for something no one else has. Is that bad NO....its smart....I dont care what kind of heat I take for that.

    All kinds of 3 wheelers are everywhere....including real clean original riders, Plenty of parts...I dont buy the argument of pushing others out of the hobbie.

    When I sell on ebay I get the hate mails....you'll never get this for that or someone saying its only worth 50.00 bucks....depends what mood im in or how busy I am that day but I love it when I have there email and can blast right back with docuumentation of what parts have sold for.

    Bottom line whether its ATC parts...cars....or vintage barbie dolls...rare means big$$$ ....no you know ....and more power to you for making your own tacho....thats great.!!!!!..just not HONDA GREAT....you may have heard of HONDA.......... the billion dollar company.
    Last edited by Orangecnty250r; 12-12-2009 at 10:24 AM.
    Wikipedia "All Terrain Vehicle" Definition excerpt
    Other smaller or lesser known companies, such as Tiger ATV, Franks, and Cagiva, produced racing three wheelers, but in much smaller numbers. Few of these machines are known to exist today and are highly sought by collectors.


    Check out my Tiger 3 wheeler Webpage..my quest for a TIGER MUSEUM started 2004 http://sites.google.com/site/tigerrotax/home

    Rides: TIGER Factory line up, Tricky Dicks Cagiva 200, 4- Franks 3 and 4 Wheelers

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    Pete. Too bad there's probobly no more than 500-600 ATC enthusiasts world wide. If this were RARE NOS car stuff it would have been gone long time ago. (I know, I look for this stuff too) Good luck with the site and keep findin those parts!!
    3 CR500R's and counting. Do I really need 4???
    Do I really need 9 Tigers?
    Laegers ATC500R
    DO NOT send any thing to whats his face (dirt-face/crasher) here on the board. What a scum bag. He screwed (stole) money from me and screwed me on my ME360 and Hondaline 300R engine rebuilds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88 Turbo Coupe View Post
    Pete. Too bad there's probobly no more than 500-600 ATC enthusiasts world wide. If this were RARE NOS car stuff it would have been gone long time ago. (I know, I look for this stuff too) Good luck with the site and keep findin those parts!!
    Never thought about how many of "us" were out there
    Wikipedia "All Terrain Vehicle" Definition excerpt
    Other smaller or lesser known companies, such as Tiger ATV, Franks, and Cagiva, produced racing three wheelers, but in much smaller numbers. Few of these machines are known to exist today and are highly sought by collectors.


    Check out my Tiger 3 wheeler Webpage..my quest for a TIGER MUSEUM started 2004 http://sites.google.com/site/tigerrotax/home

    Rides: TIGER Factory line up, Tricky Dicks Cagiva 200, 4- Franks 3 and 4 Wheelers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangecnty250r View Post
    All kinds of 3 wheelers are everywhere....including real clean original riders, Plenty of parts...I dont buy the argument of pushing others out of the hobbie.


    There was a time the same could be said of classic Mustangs. I passed up a clean original daily driver '67 Fastback for $1600 back in 1989. A buddy of mine gave $2000 for a nice '72 Mach 1 the same year. What do they go for now? I know of rusted bodies(hulls) that can't be bought for those prices around here. A lot of people have been pushed out of the classic car scene by the money.

    The same thing has been happening to the 3-wheeler market since the advent of E-bay.

    Guess it's just natural, though. I say more power to those that can afford the resto/show pieces. It's not like I wouldn't like to have a replicated 1985 Honda showroom in my living room....lol. I'd never need a TV again.

    Problem is, I would still want to ride them like I did when I was a kid sitting on the new 3-wheelers in the showroom.
    '84 ATC70.....my 8-y.o. son's ride

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    Just like the disappearance of the middle class, sooner or later the average guy will have a tough time assembling a nice trike.

    Someday a MAIER fender may bring 2000$..........

    I think most of us plan on keeping ours, but the economy can force otherwise and into the hands of wealthier people......

    I'll say this; I will lose my home before I lose my animals and or my trikes
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88 Turbo Coupe View Post
    Pete. Too bad there's probobly no more than 500-600 ATC enthusiasts world wide. If this were RARE NOS car stuff it would have been gone long time ago. (I know, I look for this stuff too) Good luck with the site and keep findin those parts!!
    I am sorry but that is just a ridiculous thing to say.....500-600? PLEASE that is a laughable number there are 6,692,030,277 (2008) people in the world and 528,720,588 in North America and you mean to tell me there are only 500-600 enthusiasts? Come on. ATC's were HUGE in the 80's and plenty of people still ride/love them.


    BTW I just checked the member list of this website, there are well over 7,000 members on this board alone so your 500-600 thing has already been smashed away.
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    1986 Honda TRX350D - Gone but not forgotten 1982 Honda 185s*sold* 1985 200x*sold* 1983 200x*sold* 1985 ATC70*sold* 2002 Honda 400EX*sold*

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    Quote Originally Posted by inv3ctiv3 View Post
    I am sorry but that is just a ridiculous thing to say.....500-600? PLEASE that is a laughable number there are 6,692,030,277 (2008) people in the world and 528,720,588 in North America and you mean to tell me there are only 500-600 enthusiasts? Come on. ATC's were HUGE in the 80's and plenty of people still ride/love them.


    BTW I just checked the member list of this website, there are well over 7,000 members on this board alone so your 500-600 thing has already been smashed away.
    By enthusiast he means people who are the serious collectors. The kind of people that will pay top dollar for a perfect resto. I can think of only a dozen or so people on this site that would fall into that category. I think 5-600 might be a little high even.

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