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    I'm new to ice racing - pls help me set it up

    So whats involved in getting my 86 250r setup for the ice?

    I have:
    Larger main jet - 180 on my 39mm pwk
    +4 Lonestar axle
    Extra tires that I will stud

    What setting does the rear shock need to be at to lower the ride height? Is an adjustable dog bone necessary?
    How about gearing? I'm running 14/36 which to me is really tall is this adequate?
    What about the front suspension?

    Thanks
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    I use a durablue adjustable link and also choke up on the front forks. What kinda tires you plan on running?

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    I was just going to use some worn holeshots that came on the trike but stud them up, 20" ones. Same for the front

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    you got the right idea, stud up the tires... prob 300-500 studs per rear tire,, also like stated, choke up on the triple tree ( loosen the bolts and slide the fork tubes up so it lowers the front end down)

    for the rear shock, adjustable link, or loosen the spanner nuts( closer to the top of the shock) than adjust the settings on it to firm it up,

    depending on the type of racing you do.. your gearing might be ok if you have the skill and set up to carry speed threw the corners, but may have better luck going up on the rear,
    86 200x, 1st gen 200x axle,400ex hubs,fmf megamax2 muffler

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    Thanks for the info, should be a fun time!

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    use what you have planned for now. your order of purchase should be

    #1. a set of chin chen c826 18x9.5x8 ice racing tires with a stud placed in each nobby (this will get the rear end lower and let you get the spin you need).

    #2. adjustable lowering link (this will get you way low).

    #3. custom 10 inch front wheel (this will let you run smaller front tires in the 19,20 and 21 inch range and that will help get the front end lower).

    there are alot of other tricks but these will help the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie pettengil View Post
    use what you have planned for now. your order of purchase should be

    #1. a set of chin chen c826 18x9.5x8 ice racing tires with a stud placed in each nobby (this will get the rear end lower and let you get the spin you need).

    #2. adjustable lowering link (this will get you way low).

    #3. custom 10 inch front wheel (this will let you run smaller front tires in the 19,20 and 21 inch range and that will help get the front end lower).

    there are alot of other tricks but these will help the most.

    Just outta curiosity, how much did you lower the forks?

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    You want low, wide, and stock or shortened wheelbase I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litebulblsc View Post
    You want low, wide, and stock or shortened wheelbase I believe.
    low and wide!! you see all the time.. quads set up for ice/ flat track with -1 or -2 swing arms... ..



    im actually gonna be doing some investigating with the rear shock/ link from my 84 cr125 to see if there is a way to get it to work on the 200x to get the rear end lower
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    Quote Originally Posted by litebulblsc View Post
    You want low, wide, and stock or shortened wheelbase I believe.
    The shortened wheelbase part is highly debatable
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    thats a sick R Eddie!!



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    The quads do not hook 1/2 as good as a trike coming out of a turn, there for they use shorter swingarms to get more weight over the rear wheels. I have to much grip on the trike pulling the front tire off the ground when throttling out the corner.

    I have my forks pulled up in the tripples 4 3/8 higher than normal setting, I also use the 85 spring set up and remove the top spring and place it on the dampening rod lowering it another 1 1/4. she sits pretty low, I'm 5'10'',140lb and it looks like a toy next to me (check pics).

    Notice the 1/2 moon shape in my rear fenders from the studs making contact with them, lol now thats low.
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    wow! that looks wicked!!! and vids of her tearing up the ice???
    86 200x, 1st gen 200x axle,400ex hubs,fmf megamax2 muffler

    Three wheeler guys probably have the biggest balls out of all the ATV/Motorcycle riders. You just have to be a little twisted to ride them, and you have to be a great rider to do so.

    'let those who slide decide'


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    stay tuned this winter for vids, you have to remember im 36 with 2 very young kids so dont expect anything crazy, not sure if there are any vids of me i'm the guy with the camaera most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie pettengil View Post
    stay tuned this winter for vids, you have to remember im 36 with 2 very young kids so dont expect anything crazy, not sure if there are any vids of me i'm the guy with the camaera most of the time.
    im 26 with a boy thats gonna be 3 in less than a month, and a 1 month old little girl! i hear ya as we age we dont heal as fast.. im still fellin my high side roll over from saturday
    86 200x, 1st gen 200x axle,400ex hubs,fmf megamax2 muffler

    Three wheeler guys probably have the biggest balls out of all the ATV/Motorcycle riders. You just have to be a little twisted to ride them, and you have to be a great rider to do so.

    'let those who slide decide'


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