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    Still Bogging???

    For the guys that haven't read any of my post recently, I have an 85 250SX, with a Cobra exhaust system, Web-Cam cam, Web-Cam valve springs, and jetted carb.. The machine runs great except if you really pound the throttle, to do wheelies, etc.. Even when i'm in neutral, if I go from idle, to half throttle quickly, it will totally die out. Still seems to be running a bit rich too,carbon on the plug. Any ideas what I should do next?

    Here's the things I hope it may be. Petcock not producing enough fuel, octane level of fuel to low (only using 87), spark plug to cold. Thats all I got. Timing is dead on, and the valve clearance is .004 which the cam requires.
    84'200s (Dad bought new in 84, long gone)
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    running air filter?try taking it off and see how it runs.double check all your carb settings.to see if fuel has good flow pull the line off the carb and turn on.good flow means good to go.
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    Try rejetting your carb. If its running a bit rich try a size or two smaller main jet. Also, try 91 or 93 octane. All I run in my toys is 93 from Mobil or Sunoco.
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    I ordered a brand new petcock. I'll see what that does, but if not isen't it, I don't know. Had it at the shop, and they made some adjustments to the carb.. I ran it once, and it seemed to be good, but when I brought it home, I changed out the petcock because the one on there was leaking. I'll change out the filter as well.
    84'200s (Dad bought new in 84, long gone)
    84'YTM200 (sold 02)
    85'KLT160 (sold 05)
    84' Big Red (Cobra exhaust,good shape) sold in 08
    84' Big Red (Parts Bike, runs good though)sold in 08
    85' 250SX (New plastic, Clark Plastic Gas Tank, Web Cam Camshaft, Cobra Exhaust, Moose Jet Kit, etc..) sold in 2010 and highly regret!!!
    04 Polaris Sportsman (Swapped 400 motor with a 500, Polaris wheels w/Kendra Bearclaws, Moose Fender Flares, Brushguard, Warn Winch)
    84 200s (Needs work!)

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    you may also need to take the carb appart and clean it. (at least the bowl area). but yes change the filter, and clean the carb and you should be good.

    if it's running rich. the carb could be plain worn out and just need a basic rebuild.the jets needle and seats all wear over time. a rebuild kit gives you stock fresh new sized jetting and parts so it should run much better once rebuilt.
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    Been rebuilt recently.
    84'200s (Dad bought new in 84, long gone)
    84'YTM200 (sold 02)
    85'KLT160 (sold 05)
    84' Big Red (Cobra exhaust,good shape) sold in 08
    84' Big Red (Parts Bike, runs good though)sold in 08
    85' 250SX (New plastic, Clark Plastic Gas Tank, Web Cam Camshaft, Cobra Exhaust, Moose Jet Kit, etc..) sold in 2010 and highly regret!!!
    04 Polaris Sportsman (Swapped 400 motor with a 500, Polaris wheels w/Kendra Bearclaws, Moose Fender Flares, Brushguard, Warn Winch)
    84 200s (Needs work!)

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    take off the air box lid, my 200es big red has a cobra exhaust, and a new china carb and i had to take off the air box lid for it to run spot on
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniel_250r View Post
    take off the air box lid, my 200es big red has a cobra exhaust, and a new china carb and i had to take off the air box lid for it to run spot on
    Did your bog at low end like mine?
    84'200s (Dad bought new in 84, long gone)
    84'YTM200 (sold 02)
    85'KLT160 (sold 05)
    84' Big Red (Cobra exhaust,good shape) sold in 08
    84' Big Red (Parts Bike, runs good though)sold in 08
    85' 250SX (New plastic, Clark Plastic Gas Tank, Web Cam Camshaft, Cobra Exhaust, Moose Jet Kit, etc..) sold in 2010 and highly regret!!!
    04 Polaris Sportsman (Swapped 400 motor with a 500, Polaris wheels w/Kendra Bearclaws, Moose Fender Flares, Brushguard, Warn Winch)
    84 200s (Needs work!)

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    it was every where wouldnt idle corectly either just take it off and boot around a bit
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    that emans if you took the lid off and it runs right, then it's a filter issue. something is plugged getting air to the system
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    Removed air box lid and no more bog??
    84'200s (Dad bought new in 84, long gone)
    84'YTM200 (sold 02)
    85'KLT160 (sold 05)
    84' Big Red (Cobra exhaust,good shape) sold in 08
    84' Big Red (Parts Bike, runs good though)sold in 08
    85' 250SX (New plastic, Clark Plastic Gas Tank, Web Cam Camshaft, Cobra Exhaust, Moose Jet Kit, etc..) sold in 2010 and highly regret!!!
    04 Polaris Sportsman (Swapped 400 motor with a 500, Polaris wheels w/Kendra Bearclaws, Moose Fender Flares, Brushguard, Warn Winch)
    84 200s (Needs work!)

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