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    Just my luck, I seriously can't believe it

    So I am sure you guys are aware of my broken bolt situation.....well I got the new gasket on and the clutch cover back on, decompression arm set, clutch cable back on and as I am going back over everything making sure nothing is loose....the bolt behind the kick start holding the clutch cover on was loose so I barely even tightening and guess what......SNAP! That bolt broke off....I am beyond pissed about this. I didn't torque it super hard or anything, stupid old bolts just snap. And the clutch doesn't disengage it from gear so I am not so sure what I did wrong there but I gotta completely re-do this whole thing.....I am at my wit's end with this stupid thing. Did I miss something when I put the clutch cover back on, why does the clutch not work? The cable might not be adjusted?
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    I would pull the clutch cover back off, and make sure the actuator arm is lined up correctly, and everything else is correct. With the bolts that small (8mm, right?) you always want to use a 1/4 inch drive ratchet, and the shorter the better. No need for a long ratchet or excessive force for such small bolts, especially on the motor. Hopefully the stud comes out as easy as it did last time! Good luck.
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    yep i second the ideal of a 1/4" drive ractchet...i learned that on a oil filter cover on a 220 bayou quad. i generally tighten it up with my finger then go a 3/4 a turn with the ratchet.
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    If you've got a service manual, it should tell you torque specs on those.
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    Another thing you should do is chase the threads.There can be debris,sealer and all kinds of stuff in the hole.Plus oxidation can cause you problems also.If the gasket pulls off clean I would reuse it.Don't put any sealer on it if you reinstall.

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    After chasing the threads with a tap I like to apply a little grease or anti-seize to the threads. Steel bolts going into an aluminum case are sure fire recipe for corrosion.

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    Use a torque wrench on all bolts. Plus replace them over time when redoing the clutch etc. Also like JohnR. said use anti-seize on your bolts before putting them back in.
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    Yea well she's back on her side with the clutch cover off.....this bolt is a bit deeper so I hope it comes out ok....I am kinda at my wit's end with this thing. I really hate buying used stuff cause you never really know it's condition until you take it apart. It always rode and drove fine but once you start taking stuff apart you open old wounds that may have been jimmy rigged.....

    New problems:

    Clutch doesn't work, when you pull the clutch you can kind of pull the trike forward but not easily at all
    Rear brakes appear to leak fluid (they were totally empty and I just filled up the resevoir....)
    When you try and roll the trike backwards it feels like the rear brake is on halfway but when you roll forward it doesn't feel as bad

    I am tempted to completely pull the trike apart and get the frame/parts powdercoated and painted and restore the bike but I don't have the time/money right now. Sorry for the rant but I am really frustrated with this now.
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    Hope things work out bro, you'll get it done!
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    Thats the problem wiht any 3 wheeler you buy, they are all old and used, no matter how nice they look there can still be problmes created in 20+ years.

    Just take your time dont work on a bike when your fusterated, you tend to forget more things. (i forgot to put the nut on a clutch basket once) Causing you more problems in the end.

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    This poor dude has the worst luck! He's going to become a great machanic!

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    I grease every bolt when putting a motor back together, i bet your motor has not been appart yet and stuff is super tight causing things to snap.

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    thats the way u learn trial and error good luck man
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    Did you use a small torque wrench? I tried to warn ya, 8-12nm is all the torque you need and what comes from the factory, its very little.
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    It was loose! It wasn't even tight! I also looked at the clutch lever, there is only one way for it to go, you can't screw it up putting it back together because I never took the push arm out or anything so it's really weird the clutch didn't work when I put it back together yesterday.....that's a big concern for me.
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