200x hard starting??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[glyden06]

having trouble searching the forums so i figured i would just ask.put new valve seals in my 85 200x the other day,trike always started easy,couple kicks no choke,now i have to find just the right spot and it will fire up.it ties to start on just about every kick,but it is picky now,got to keep slowly winding it up and then give it one good kick.no longer able to sit on it and kick,got to stand off to the side.getting plenty of fuel,and good spark.kind of frustrating!!any info,or a link to this problem somewhere else on here?thanks in advance!!!

[anderson8687]

i would check your timing...a service manual has instructions on how to do it. my 200x acted like that after my rebuild until i set the timing.

[posty2100]

i would check your timing...a service manual has instructions on how to do it. my 200x acted like that after my rebuild until i set the timing.

X2

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[tri again]

having trouble searching the forums so i figured i would just ask.put new valve seals in my 85 200x the other day,trike always started easy,couple kicks no choke,now i have to find just the right spot and it will fire up.it ties to start on just about every kick,but it is picky now,got to keep slowly winding it up and then give it one good kick.no longer able to sit on it and kick,got to stand off to the side.getting plenty of fuel,and good spark.kind of frustrating!!any info,or a link to this problem somewhere else on here?thanks in advance!!!

might valve seals change the vacuum? esp if they needed changing from leaking / smoking?

would a vacuum change cause a mixture change?

is there any correlation between vacuum and timing like on other types of engines?I.m not exactly sure how these timing things work, altho I did see a swiveling breakerplate with little springs in a box of honda parts the other day.

Might been a 185 but I wouldn't bet on that

[glyden06]

i figured it had something to do with that,we messed with the timing a bunch of times!!????until our heads hurt!i took it for a ride yesterday,just doesnt sound right.got to get on it a little on take off,more than normal,and it has a little smoke now????idk,i am ready to pay someone to work on this damn thing!gonna try the book again this weekend.thanks for the responses,i will check bak in with the results.

[oldskool83]

intake valve clearnces, they prob tighter then the gates of hell.

[glyden06]

checked them,they have a little jiggle to them,didnt actually gauge them,but they seem to have some give???this is the first time i really had to work an any honda i have had!!HAHA!well hopfully this weekend i will figure it out.thanks again everyone!

intake valve clearnces, they prob tighter then the gates of hell.

[oldskool83]

Then its timing or your carb, cant nothing other then that unless your plugs too bad.

[rdlsz24]

Mine was starting like a beast last weekend and I changed the plug and it helped a lot. Plug was black since I still have some carb tuning to do.

Rob

[CRAZY70MAN]

Try a Ngk Dr7es instead....a bit hotter. Worked like a charm in my 84 200x. It loved to eat dr8es plugs. Never had a problem with it after installing that plug. May not be your case but worth a try

[anderson8687]

also want to add that mine started well, but it starts even better now with a new air filter....not sure what shape yours is but you may want to replace it

[glyden06]

spark plug is a ngk,brand new.air filter was just cleaned,only have about an hour or two on it.cleaned the carb right after we put it back together,thought that was it.gonna try the timing tomorrow,we will see what happens!??!??

[Woodsrider]

checked them,they have a little jiggle to them,didnt actually gauge them,but they seem to have some give???this is the first time i really had to work an any honda i have had!!HAHA!well hopfully this weekend i will figure it out.thanks again everyone!

Your valve clearance is important....."jiggling" them isn't really a good method of checking them. This could be your problem....it might be worth it to actually verify that your valves are properly adjusted, just in case it is in fact your problem. Otherwise you could be wasting your time with all other avenues explored.