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    Post 1986 250r disaster

    i have a 1986 250r i bought it from my uncle and he parked it like in the 90's and i cant kick start it it wont go down i don't know what to do can you help me ok so to day i was taking the right crank case cover off to see if the gear were jamed and when i was tighting the cover back on it crack now what do i do i bought some jb weld it that going to do the job.
    Last edited by leecox; 06-15-2010 at 12:38 AM.

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    Ouch. Don't over tighten anything. It's all aluminum. Just use a little 1/4 in ratchet. Also sounds like it might be seized up. If you can't kick it over, first thing to check is the rings and the cylinder. Pull the spark plug and shine a light in there. If its all rusty that's likely the problem. Fill the cylinder with penetrating oil and let it sit for a few days. If you are working outside put the spark plug back in. Take it out 3 days later and see if it turns over then.

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    i took the spark plug out and i took the bolt out so i could see the piston and the piston was at the bottom of the cylinder my dad said it doesnt suspose to be at the bottom but i will lube it up and see wat happend and wat about the crack crank case cover
    Last edited by leecox; 06-15-2010 at 12:37 AM.

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    jb weld sucks!! Might work, but will look like crap. scour e-bay or the classifieds for a new cover. Invest in a 1/4" torque wrench!!!And use the manual!! these parts are 25 yrs old, and long discontinued, so careless mistakes can be costly!! good luck!

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    stop messing with it now and get an experienced mechanic to fix it. It takes some knowledge and experience to work on these machines and it sounds like you could use the help

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    Mechanics rule#1 - Never FORCE anything. Bolts do not pull assemblys together, something was not lined up.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtcrasher View Post
    Mechanics rule#1 - Never FORCE anything. Bolts do not pull assemblys together, something was not lined up.......

    So thats what I does wrong. lol. Joking that is awesome advice tho. I am guilty sometimes.
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    i took the whole head off and i fixed the cover with jb weld it work great but when i took the head off i saw that the piston crack and the reason the motor wouldnt turn over is because the crack peaces fell in the engine now i got to take the whole engine apart and where does it tell y what size piston because i dont know if my uncle got it bored out where does it tell you the piston size

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    the crown of the piston should reveal the STD mark or overbore.
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    Or you will have to measure the bore with a bore gauge and micrometer. If the bore is scratched or has grooves in it you will have to have it bored to the next (over)size.
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    IF IT HAD A MELT DOWN,, YOUR IN FOR SPLITTING THE CASES TOO.. main bearings will be junk too.

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    look like i came to the right place thank you to all the 3 wheeler fans who helped me if i have and more question i will post them here

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    Hey leecox.............If you ever decide to give up on this one i know a good home for it, my shop, just kidding, but really you should get a manual, they are a max of 30 bucks on ebay and they have a PRICELESS list of mechanical operations inside. I bought one for every vintage machine i've owned, no matter how many wheels, and they are worth every penny. Good luck with the 250r its been my dream since birth to own one.

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    there are free manuals right on this site.please use them.that is the best threewheeler ever made dont jack it up please
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