picked up an 84 atc70 for 40$ bucks ! need help.

[PAPA250r]

picked up an 84 atc70 . from a guy cleaning out a garage.

its all complete but needs a restoration . its a bit rusty has one flat . but its totally saveable with some powder coating and maby even a lifan .

anyway I'm not looking to start this project right away and I'm trying to get it running to messaround on .

the problem is it has spark that comes and goes . I had it fired up for about 20 seconds.

what would cause that ? I cleaned the points and flywheel .

thanks for anyhelp !

ill ppost some pictures soon

[torker]

Check the ground, it may not be as good, specially if it's rusty. It could also be the points. Hope you get it to run soon.

TORKER.

[PAPA250r]

well i got it running and it was a ground issue thanks .

issue number 2 is it backfires . and shifts into gear but dosent move . it creeps very slowly and the engine bogs down ?

clutch or centrifical clutch ?

[Walkerallen]

try adjusting the clutch, and for the back fire, make sure you exhaust isn't plugged

[Fungo Wizard]

Dude that was a steal. i just missed a 78 in about that shape for 100 bucks. Good find, and good luck restoring.

[PAPA250r]

thanks ! i bet the exhaust is plugged . the exhaust is rotted to hell. along with the chain and brake drum covers .lol

it seems to rev up fine in neutral other then the backfireing

[Jim mac]

could it be the timing? that would explain the backfire and no power. jim

[PAPA250r]

would worn out points even when set to proper gap cause it to be out of time ?

[350Xccelerator]

Nice score, thats a solid looking 70

[Xpress]

Nice score, fenders look great!

As for your problems, it could be anything from a plugged up exhaust, a fouled spark plug, or even a dirty carburetor. I would take the exhaust off and swap it for something else if possible, swap in a new plug, and take the carb off and really thoroughly clean it. My 200x was backfiring pretty badly when I let off the throttle, so I cleaned out the carb, and put a new plug in, and it's running like new

That would also be a great project too. A little polish, maybe some sandblasting and powdercoating, and it'll be a sweet ride

It's going to be hard to kill that engine......

[MuckUte]

The carby more than likely needs a clean and filters on the fuel lines wouldn't be a bad idea as the tanks are quite often full of rust. New points and condenser would be a good idea to as worn points can cause the timing to be out even when set to the correct gap

[PAPA250r]

i cleaned the carb and put a fresh plug in . im thinking its the points also.

i wasnt going to start this project soon. but after lookin at some piks on hondaatc70.com i think its time to get the project rolling.

the only parts too far gone are the brake hub covers , chain cover and the axle is too far pitted to make pretty again.

short list . powder coat frame and fork (oem colors) . chrome all the chrome . complete sticker kit . douglass rims and holeshot tires . big bore kit . maby a blue honda 70 seat cover .

anyone have any feedback on this kit ?

http://www.tboltusa.com/store/vintag...70-p-1338.html

[bigworm626]

Holy cow what a steal, you lucky dog you!. lol

[Thorpe]

For that kind of money for a stroker kit, I would think about pulling that motor out and throwing a lifan in... Dont have to beat that little honda motor, and when the lifan is dead, throw it away and put the 70cc back in... (just me though)

[PAPA250r]

what's the going rate for a 140cc lifan ?

I seen a web site with one for 400 ?

that's pretty cheap. I would defenetly get one of those over a kit