good bye 3ww

[juggaloclownz18]

brapp buddy, i dont know you like most other people on here, but i know your a brother of mine from 3WW and im here for ya if you need anthing, i like others know how you fell man, been there done that.... When you still have strong feelings for someone and your hurting, you tend to find "emotional attachments" to everything, even the little things, the hardest part is to just let go, but a very important step. You are a great person, i know that from all things i have read you tell other people and all the things you have done for other people, your a great person, and if she was not willing to accept that, then thats her GD loss not yours, move on with your life, and do bigger better things, your capable of that my friend, you are BRAPP for christs sake, you were one of the first people on here that i noticed as a "regular user" of 3WW and very helpful, if you can care that much to help other people then i know you can care that much to move on with your life and care about yourself bro, live and be free, dont dwell on the past, trust me, you dont want to end up in some of the places ive been before, i used to be a suicidal depressive drug addict, well now im better, and the first thing i did was find all the reasons i didnt need to be like that, and focused on them! Let us help you my friend, WE CAN ALL get through this, and so can you with our help!! I try and remember when i was homeless and eating out of dumpsters everyday to survive, and that helps me keep my head up, could always be worse (ill be happy as long as it does not come to that again EVER!).....

Please dont take offense to this i dont know what happened and its not my business, or anything, just trying to give you some positive thinking, my life is way better now that i learned to think positive and forget all the negatives, i always try and find the positive and every situation now, because like i say "it could always be worse!"

Let me know if theres anything i can do for you man, im here for you, i know we have never met, but your a cool person, with a good heart, dont forget that, love yourself man, everything happens for a reason and there is a reason this happened, but you gotta let yourself shine to find out why!

[Bryan Raffa]

cant be too bad,, I see you have another new Girl friend already.......

[brapp]

yeah its the same one i keep tryign to be with till she gets pissed and jelous when ever i try and talk to jessy or try and do somethign other then what she wants to do . and its mostly over the internet i have hung out a few times and spent mabey a week total with her over the last few months

[brapp]

and no matter how much i try and move on it doesnt fillthe void in my life and it just ends up pissign me off and then i go and get all depressed again so its never ends.

[Dirtcrasher]

Trust me, misery loves company.......

I've been alone seemingly FOREVER when the EX decided she was a lesbian. I like T and A so how can I blame her....She was simply the best girl I ever had, cute, loved dirtbikes, motocross etc but obviously, she had issues too.

No-One can predict the future. Some guys hook up in a few weeks and stay with the girl for years. Others try and try but get burned and dissappointed.

You have to love BRAPP 1st, the rest will hopefully fall in to place. I give NO GUARANTEE though as it's easy for some, harder for others.

I wish all my trike buddies could have cute wonderful girlfriends that share or at least acknowledge our passion for trikes.

Nobody said life would be easy and mine at 39yo is the hardest it's ever been and I have months to go before the job even settles up. Let alone someone to care and share with.

That streetbike will kill you and possibly another innocent family so DUMP IT. I'm sorry, but YOU are not responsible enough to own that thing and how great would it be for your daughter to grow up alone?; With only one persons point of view taught to her.....

Mistakes can't be fixed, only you present actions show people the BRAPP you are and want to be.

I've wanted to end my life numerous times; But I know that people that know me would shake their head, look up and say "WHY!!!!!!" You can have all the abilities in the world but they are hard to see through your own eyes sometimes. I stay alive for my family and animals for now, someday hopefully for something more...

And coming home to an empty home is just horrible. Sure, you can do what you want and whenever but that usually leads to self destructive behavior and activities.

I can tell you that "Time heals all wounds" but the scar will always remain.

Life goes on, it has to or others will wonder why such a talented person made a permanent solution to a temporary problem. It could be years to land on your feet again but you have to for your father, your family that's left and your daughter.

There is NO DEFINITIVE TIME SCHEDULE!!; The things we want and desire could be just around the corner tomorrow or miles away years from now. The waiting is the hard part as well as being prepared for that time to come, unexpectedly.....

PLEASE, FOR YOUR DAUGHTER SAKE ALONE, SELL THE BIKE! and hang tough my friend! Come on down (or upmto MASS someday; A few of the guys are pretty close and you can see what Northeastern woman are like. Unfriendly and standoffish are 2 immediate words that come to mind... (IMHO for those of you that disagree with that statement, forgive me).

That keeps part of the checklist already completed...

[brapp]

the worst part is i have had probably 20-30 diffrent girls who i had talked to and out of them all i made a few great friends i havent been a whore and slept with them i slept with 2 of them and tried to make relationships work but i wasnt ready and just drove them away and the one i am trying to see how things go for now cant seem to look past i wa sin a 4 year relationship and have kids so i cant completly focus on her allthe time and on top of it i have a business too.

[Dirtcrasher]

New relationships are always weary of people that recently ended a 2,3, or 4 year relationship. You can't blame them is the "caution" feature in there blood.

You may be built different, IDK. But I would like a "relationship" that includes hopping in the sack in due time. You, on the other hand may be looking to hop in the sack and build a relationship around that? It's possible that you don't want any type of commitment at all, you just want to screw, chew and enjoy your property, IDK??

But if your heartbroken, you know what to do; Make the steps to change yourself and begin a new slow relationship with her. If you think she's just gonna hop in the sack with you after you hurt her, you can forget about it and if she does it's merely because she feels "safe" with you.

IDK what else to say, I tried to lay it all all out for you from my perspective ( which may or may not agree with others).

I've met jessy twice now and she was always friendly, hospitable, put up with us in the home she shared with you and generally seemed like a nice caring person. Take it any way you wish, if you ruined any chance to move on with her, then you have to move on as hard as it may be...

Look at these replies, we aren't even family, many of us thousands of miles away (met maybe 2 or 3 times) but we don't want to see you in pain or hurting BRAPP; Honestly, I don't care if it's trikes/bikes/quads or streetbikes; When you get older you hang on to the people you give a sh!t about regardless of whether every decision they make is right or wrong...... Having common hobbies bring you closer to your friends which opens up the door for spilling our guts. (The same guts we don't want all over your streetbike). IDK if you think crazy stuff impresses people but at our age it doesn't. Some of it is funny but some of it is scary and people don't want to see you in a hospital. Imagine these TEMPORARY problems and combine those with a paraplegic on a respirator. THEN it's time to worry about the future but your healthy (for now!!) and all the things you couldn't do yourself.

Your not Doug Henry with the same support system he has in place. But there is something about him that shows and he i

Do some long and hard soul searching BRAPP and remember that we aren't even your family. Although, sometimes family can be even more difficult to talk with than strangers.

Maybe it's time to tell yourself and world your positives and negatives and ask for a bit of forgiveness. I'm not a churchgoer but all that masonry work, statues and glass aren't cheap.

They're from people that believe in something.

I myself don't seem to believe in much more than Karma and evolution...........................

Hit me up if you need an ear to listen; just send me a PM and I'll give you my number.

Take care my friend...........................

[jeswinehart]

Longest goodbye I ever have seen !

john

[Tri-Z 250]

j swine...nice stone throw, nothing intelligent to say, indicates your perfect life is empty as well.
Brapp,
Obiviously there are deep trust issues and lines have been crossed at some point in the realationship.
Coming from the side that HAS BEEN cheated on I can tell you that it hurts just as much. It's far easier to distance yourself from that person without question. The things that go through your head is Why ME, What did I DO to deserve this, What could I have done to prevent this....The answer is NOTHING, it's not the giving and trusting persons fault. The person who is DEVIANTE is looking to CONTROL the other person in the realationship. I don't believe in SEX addication...it all boils down to the lack of TRUE emotional contact. The real LOVE you need to find is in your realations with your childern...plan and simple. Your fixed on ME....when you should have been more worried about WE.
If I were to tell you that the image and impressions your giving your Daughter will drive her to believe that woman are a lesser human....would it change your ways? Having a relationship that lead to childern will keep you in contact with the other individual for the rest of your LIFE. So the new girl excuse of I hate when you talk to her, only show HER imaturity. You my friend need to keep close contact with your KIDS. Do not let them suffer because things aren't working out to the point of the Ex's return. TRUST is like a TREE at frist it's a small twig with a few sprouts after years of of growth it becomes a sapling...only to become a mighty OAK. Deviante behavior is the AXE that chops away at that tree. Sure the tree might survive but perment damage will leave a scar...I have seen woman give 2nd chances, and it's NEVER the same. I call it going through the motions, she'll spend, oversee every ticking moment and if you felt cramped before...well 2nd time chances workout in the smallest of %.
You really want to CHANGE, start by just LOVING the childeren. Try your best to become more than just A dad. In time if you stay away from every barstool, internet hookup she may come back(unlikely). It may only be as a friend but you need to except that for the KIDS sake. Be assured it will be after she TESTS the waters and could be years from now. You need to be HAPPY for the fact she was able to heal from HER emotions. LOVE has no easy answers and real deep hurting pain on the Heart when lost. I had to learn and I'm still trying my hardest to be a GIVING CARING man...sounds a bit fruity but I was hurt by family, as well as grilfriends in my eariler years. I had to grow INSIDE before I got married to my wife. She called it cold feet...I knew I wasn't ready in many aspects of my life at the time. I LOVED her so I was willing to CHANGE ME because I wanted to be WHOLE for HER.
I'm going to leave this conversation with a BLESSING...Brapp may God BLESS you and your childerns realationship that you may become closer and more LOVING in these dark times. Allow your self to except and realize your own faults whatever they may be, and let the LOVE of your childern gide you to WHOLENESS once more.

[brapp]

i have mad emy mistakes and pushed her away i have cheated i have lied and i have pushed her sway when things got too serious for 4 years. but i also had emotional issues from a highschool sweetheart gettign killed when i was 18 so i ahve a reason to fear comittment. i was completly faithful the last almost 9 months of our relationship but she didnt see it cause she didnt live with me allthe time. i have done everythign i can to make someone of myself that i want to be and be proud of but when the one person who was always there and always loved you and belived in you no longer even showed a hint of emotion it is the most painfulthing in the world. and when i really wanted to start to settle down and be a real family and be the suporting man and the father and husband it was already too late she had her mind set on leaving. noone is perfect and mistakes will happen but how you handle this emistakes will determine a persons true character. i ahvent always learned much but since i have had the time without other women and plenty of free time to think i seen the wrong i have done and felt the hurt i have done to her. she was the best woman i could have ever asked for a great mom always tried to show an intrest in what i was doing and i took it for granted. but i cant change her mind alli can do is learn from it and keep prayign someday shell change her mind when she sees who i have become. and sweinhart i said i woudl be leavign after the pensyltucky rid eon july 23rd so its a pre good bye. it may be temporary or it may be permanant well see how life goes and where it takes me.

[oldskool83]

maybe just some space? i dont know what your all trueling going thru but i have learned giving some space will never hurt. hope for the best for ya.

[brapp]

Well i tried hangign on and it drove her away i have tried showign her that i wanted to change , i have changed, and she doesnt aknoledge i exist except when its abotu our daughters. It hurts the worst when you know you love someone and they want nothign to do with you. I made alot fo mistakes and a few pf the people on here tried to warn me i was gonna loose her and when i started to liosten the dammage was already done. But i had changed and now have my priorities in line. So i just wish i could make things right and let her see it. I have pushed a few mutual friends away cause of me being hurt but i have noone to blame but myself and i have been lying in the bed i have made. I woudl love to start over and start out with mabey a date here and there but she wont even talk to me if i callto say good night to elaina and lilly. I know it stillhurts i just pushed way too much for negative attention rather then beignhappy with the little bit of positive attention. Ijust wish i could make things right and iots slowly killing me. But i do have a positive note the house has never been this clean even when she lived here lol i got alot of time to think and alot of cleanign done lol and the barrels ar egettign pretty full i bet i got 50 bucks worth of aluminum cans in the past month lol time to chang em and turn those empties into the 36 pack budwiser lol

[brapp]

and tri-z 250 i do want to be a family i have beged and pleaded her to spend time together with the kids i do alot of stuff with them but its just not the dsame as when we were together. hell is one day a month too much to ask??i have a million things planned i cant do alone it just wouldnt be the safest watchign 2 kids that way.

[jeswinehart]

j swine...nice stone throw, nothing intelligent to say, indicates your perfect life is empty as well.
Brapp,
Obiviously there are deep trust issues and lines have been crossed at some point in the realationship.
Coming from the side that HAS BEEN cheated on I can tell you that it hurts just as much. It's far easier to distance yourself from that person without question. The things that go through your head is Why ME, What did I DO to deserve this, What could I have done to prevent this....The answer is NOTHING, it's not the giving and trusting persons fault. The person who is DEVIANTE is looking to CONTROL the other person in the realationship. I don't believe in SEX addication...it all boils down to the lack of TRUE emotional contact. The real LOVE you need to find is in your realations with your childern...plan and simple. Your fixed on ME....when you should have been more worried about WE.
If I were to tell you that the image and impressions your giving your Daughter will drive her to believe that woman are a lesser human....would it change your ways? Having a relationship that lead to childern will keep you in contact with the other individual for the rest of your LIFE. So the new girl excuse of I hate when you talk to her, only show HER imaturity. You my friend need to keep close contact with your KIDS. Do not let them suffer because things aren't working out to the point of the Ex's return. TRUST is like a TREE at frist it's a small twig with a few sprouts after years of of growth it becomes a sapling...only to become a mighty OAK. Deviante behavior is the AXE that chops away at that tree. Sure the tree might survive but perment damage will leave a scar...I have seen woman give 2nd chances, and it's NEVER the same. I call it going through the motions, she'll spend, oversee every ticking moment and if you felt cramped before...well 2nd time chances workout in the smallest of %.
You really want to CHANGE, start by just LOVING the childeren. Try your best to become more than just A dad. In time if you stay away from every barstool, internet hookup she may come back(unlikely). It may only be as a friend but you need to except that for the KIDS sake. Be assured it will be after she TESTS the waters and could be years from now. You need to be HAPPY for the fact she was able to heal from HER emotions. LOVE has no easy answers and real deep hurting pain on the Heart when lost. I had to learn and I'm still trying my hardest to be a GIVING CARING man...sounds a bit fruity but I was hurt by family, as well as grilfriends in my eariler years. I had to grow INSIDE before I got married to my wife. She called it cold feet...I knew I wasn't ready in many aspects of my life at the time. I LOVED her so I was willing to CHANGE ME because I wanted to be WHOLE for HER.
I'm going to leave this conversation with a BLESSING...Brapp may God BLESS you and your childerns realationship that you may become closer and more LOVING in these dark times. Allow your self to except and realize your own faults whatever they may be, and let the LOVE of your childern gide you to WHOLENESS once more.

LMAO, you are entirely welcome !

[tapper190]

[QUOTE=Tri-Z 250;889655]j swine...nice stone throw, nothing intelligent to say, indicates your perfect life is empty as well.

I think that's a little harsh, are you going to say the same about me now?
Tapper