Gasoline Problems

[smokinwrench]

Less then 10k on plugs, wires, rotors, caps, filters and what ever else I put in it last summer.

Since January 1st last year the government said they don't have to state if it contains 10% ethenal anymore.

91 octane is they highest they sell in this area.

I might try out Dillon/quickshop, but I hate both of them, I don't like savings cards and other BS like that just make the price cheaper and it is 10 miles out of my work route to go to one.

Its not vapor locking diagnosed all that crap last summer.

[smokinwrench]

4 gas stations later finally got everything cleared out and running good. Actually getting better gas mileage then I have ever gotten. Its a Conoco station and the one I normally fill up at is also Conoco.

I have a hard time buying the fact that all gas is different, I have done lots of work at fuel depots. I have seen Texaco, Conoco, Phillips 66, trucks in line behind each other pulling fuel out of the same bulk tank. Maybe they all have there own little additives that go in when truck is loading. I think it all comes down to how clean the tanks are at the gas station. Old stations probably more likely the tank has tons of sediment and water at the bottom, fuel up right after the tanker leaves and all that is stirred into the gas.

[2Tim215]

Okay, first thing is Ethanol is an alcohol, Heet has alcolhol as most other, "Gas Treatment" products. Alcohol attracts water, not good! Also many states are mandating 10% Ethanol and now all NY fuel stations have it, even if they don't post it on the their pumps. It is true to my knowledge that Kwik Fill and Valero stations are using american petroleum products for their fuel but even they have all added the 10% ethanol. I am trying to find a solution as the 10% alcohol content does a lot of damage. It isn't good for aluminum, some plastics, rubber, etc. In Florida I believe their is currently a Class action law suit for the multi damaged marine motors, fiberglass tanks, etc. We are having problems with our vehicles now and some of my three wheelers are starting hard and won't stay running. I am very concerned as I recently bought several projects and no where to get regular unleaded. An important fact to my understanding, (and a sample can be viewed at Lanes Yamaha in Watkins Glen, NY), is that the ethanol is compressed into the fuel. This compressed fuel only has a 90 day shelf life then separates. So far my Van with a 4.3 6 cyl with only 36,000 miles on it has been stalling at nearly every stop, bogs at times when climbing hills, our 300 6 cyl inline Ford motor has about quit, and my 2007 Yamaha Grizzly with about 3 tanks of fuel through it since new has now changed the color of the stainless steel muffler probably because of running hotter with the ethanol. I am still under warranty for a few more days but quite concerned. I have been told to run 93 octane, keep my tank full so there is no room for the condensation, but with the 90 day shelf life that isn't possible unless driving everyday all vehicles, ATV's, etc. ANYONE have any solutions? I would love to hear some input. I am also wondering about the two stroke motors vs the fours. Which will handle this new forced fuel the best if not driven frequently?