ATC 250R vs. 440EX

[MR ATC]

Well thats your opinion. Talk is cheap punk, banshee's would smoke a 1985-86 250r any day stock for stock.

No, it's FACT.

and Manny, Mike is no "punk" he is one of the most knowlegable people here and has forgot more about motors then you know.

a stock 85/86 ATC 250R will eat a Banshee up for lunch.
a stock TRX 250R will smoke a Banshee and the TRX is slower the the ATC.

you can now remove your foot from your mouth.

[PLJ.]

We should settle this by the weekend. My brother-in-law sent out his 400EX top end to have the 440 treatment, full porting, polish, valve job, cam, I think to someone on the West Coast, in addition, Hinson basket, Performer carb, White bros E series, Sparks ignition, etc. "Total cost well over $2,000.00" He should have all the parts back by the weekend. I have a bone stock 85 ATC250R, stock gearing, tires, pipe, etc. His 400 with a pipe, jet kit, k+n never proved any match for the ATC. We will see soon. I hope that he doesnt beat me, for I will have to ruin my "stock" "cherry" with the Trinity Drag Pipe, FTZ Reed cage, 37mm PJ Keihn and the new K+N Filter all of which are sitting on my bench ready to go if a four stroker beats her. Will post results.

[Manny55]

Well thats your opinion. Talk is cheap punk, banshee's would smoke a 1985-86 250r any day stock for stock.

No, it's FACT.

and Manny, Mike is no "punk" he is one of the most knowlegable people here and has forgot more about motors then you know.

a stock 85/86 ATC 250R will eat a Banshee up for lunch.
a stock TRX 250R will smoke a Banshee and the TRX is slower the the ATC.

you can now remove your foot from your mouth.

unless you can get this on video im not going to believe i dont care what u say.

[250rmanfmf]

MR ATC IS RIGHT!!!!!! Banshee is slower than both 250r's, also the banshee handles like trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro compared to the Trx 250r. the TRX 250r is a way better bike. Expericenced riders/racers know what they are talking about! Believe it. if you dont, go buy a stock banshee and race a stock 250r and tell me who wins!

[Ace Mon]

Will a 440 would kill a 250r ??? First of all its a rebored bike . I have a 250 r with a 300 kit 42 mm carb paul turner full race pipe and lots of extras . So in the end you are pitting a modded machine against a stock250 r ? This hardly seems fair by comparison .

[TimSr]

Believe it. if you dont, go buy a stock banshee and race a stock 250r and tell me who wins!

I have a stock TRX250R, and my brother runs a Banshee setup strictly for low end. On a drag, I take him until he puts on a passenger to reduce wheelspin, and then its not even close, the Banshee is way out front. On a MX track, sure the R toasts him.

But since this post is ATC250R vs 440EX on a drag, My stock TRX250R runs about even with the 440's, which I test almost weekly at the track, and since the ATC250R is the same thing as mine, only quite a bit lighter, Id have to conclude its probably got an edge on the TRX, and an edge on the 440. With the Raptor and Pedator out there, the 440 is no big deal, and cant pull the holeshot with either one.

This whole thread is kind of a dumb armchair racer useless debate anyways. How 'bout you guys just race, post the results, so we can all shut up already.

[theeechozen1]

I am gonna disagree with the trx being faster than a banshee stock for stock in a drag race..the R will hook up and get the jump but by the time you hit 3rd (on decent hard pack) the shee will have traction and fly right by the R and the trx will not catch up...period
I beat piped banshee's on my atc250R all the time drag racing, but that extra 80 some pounds is plenty enough to slow you down

[AirManCam]

I am gonna disagree with the trx being faster than a banshee stock for stock in a drag race..the R will hook up and get the jump but by the time you hit 3rd (on decent hard pack) the shee will have traction and fly right by the R and the trx will not catch up...period
I beat piped banshee's on my atc250R all the time drag racing, but that extra 80 some pounds is plenty enough to slow you down

Your right one of my neighbors has a MINT I mean mint trx 250r I think its an 87 and I raced him he got me off the start and then I cought up and passed him I only beat him by about 15 feet thats not much at all but its still winning

[ATC crazy]

A Banshee has a higher top speed than the TRX, but the TRX will get the jump on the 'shee, and the TRX will SMOKE the 'shee everywhere else....period

[AirManCam]

If I could Trade my 03 banshee for a MINT trx 250r I would do it in a heart beat!

[theeechozen1]

i dont know about everywhere else, I mean we are talking drag racing here,
hard pack- trx will take the banshee but not by the end of the race
sand- banshee will take a trx the whole way after first gear
street- the trx better have NO2