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    I agree, pics would be nice!

    1. 200x350xtriz250 - Kawi green
    2. 200x350xtriz250 - Yami blue
    3. SeaBass8 - White
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    5 down, 45 to go.

    1. 200x350xtriz250 - Kawi green
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    1. 200x350xtriz250 - Kawi green
    2. 200x350xtriz250 - Yami blue
    3. SeaBass8 - White
    4. atc350xer - White
    5. ATC Dude - Red
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  4. #49
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    For those of you who are wanting to see the new repros,,,You will not see them until we reach fifty ordered shells so a production run can be made. FullBore will do a great job I am sure, just take a look at their plastics. They will be a much much brighter red color than maier and very shiney. They will come in red, white,blue,black and silver at the same price for sure.. if you are wanting a different color other than what I stated please let me know and I will ask Grant at FullBore. Jerm1179 has already asked about carbon fiber and I will let him know by tomorrow, thanks Jeremy and others who have already paid!
    Last edited by honda200x1987; 10-05-2010 at 08:43 PM.

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    How close are the red and white to Honda's colors?

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    this is kind of a weird way of doing this , typically if you are reproducing an item you pay to have a mold made then run a sample so you can critique it and if things need to be fixed or changed it can be done before a large run is made , the way this is being done if you collect 50 orders witch i can tell you wont probably happen have them made and they are not what people thought they were going to be it will be kind of a mess. with companys that already produced an item like maier and stopped making that particular item and you get a group buy people know what they are going to be getting because they remember the item before . this is totally different . I personally think the only way to do this is one guy fronts the cost of the mold has a sample made and fine tune it so its a desirable product then punch out a bunch and sell them to the board members and online for a slight profit to offset his upfront costs , there are too many unknowns and alot of assuming here Im pretty sure they will be perfect, Im pretty sure the color will be dead on , Im pretty sure they can make the bezel without haveing riveted on brackets for the lights not trying to bash here I do stuff like this all the time people are going to want to see a product before they buy my 2 cents

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    I agree with all of the above. At the very least, if he gets the 3.5k together for the 50 run, fullbore should produce the first sample and send it to him, and allow for one round of tweaks before making the 50. At that point, it will also allow pics to be posted of it. Nevertheless, I support the efforts and I am down for a white one. Hope it gets made.

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    FullBore will not do the carbon fiber but they will do green also. They cannot show me a sample but they just sent me an email stating they will be as close to the donor shell as phisically possible with their process, it will be the same standards as all other FullBore products. 50 does sound like alot but if we can get atleast 30 or more then they can work with me on a run. Total cost for the first run is $3500 and that's for 50 shells so I need all the help I can get. Yes I could pay 3500 up front but that's a alot of cash for a guy like me, I am just trying to get a much needed part reproduced and beleive me guys FullBore will do a good job on this I am sure. If I fail to come up with enough on a group buy,,rest assured I will refund your $80 plus paypal fees . It would be a shame though because they can make a nice duplicate of this bezel.

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    "as phisically possible with their process" Thats the key for me. I have a stash of a dozen 350X or 200X headlights that are 100% as far as mounting/color/etc. If they can't do it all or tell you that EVERY tab will be in place, you'll have some unhappy 80$ members on your hands.

    I DO hope it works out for you and they are near spot on. Once I see one, I may buy one (as well as many others), if I have the cash.....
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    This is bashing is uncalled for I am tempted to refund everyone that has already paid right now because this is discouraging to others who were willing to buy and now they will not. NO it will not be an identical shell with every "tab" you say like the headlight mounting brackets but the entire outer shell will be close enough I am sure. The only part of the shell that MIGHT be a little bit different is the mounting for the headlight BUT they will be hidden so who cares . right? There will be no ribbets and will look just fine, FullBore makes great plastics. This is cheaper for those wanting a NEW not used headlight that is shiny and just about any color you want. You say you have a stash of a dozen of these headlight bezels? Well they are used and if you have new ones ,,well then they would have to pay big $$ to get one. Come on it's only 80 bucks shipped and if I front the full 3500 to do it myself then they will cost more I assure you . One other thing after this batch is done then they will do quanities of 5-10 for $50 each.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtcrasher View Post
    "as phisically possible with their process" Thats the key for me. I have a stash of a dozen 350X or 200X headlights that are 100% as far as mounting/color/etc. If they can't do it all or tell you that EVERY tab will be in place, you'll have some unhappy 80$ members on your hands.

    I DO hope it works out for you and they are near spot on. Once I see one, I may buy one (as well as many others), if I have the cash.....

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    Guys, lets not get out of control here. I'm sure every precaution will be made to ensure happy customers. That being said, if YOU aren't happy with the terms of the group buy (Which appear to have been pretty transparent here from what I've seen) then in your own best interest, you should probably steer clear. If you've read the terms and understand the way its being done, and want to participate, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't...

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    Dont take these comments the wrong way believe me we all want this to happen. I have no problem laying out 70$ for one I think people just dont want to get disappointed.

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    I have set a deadline of WED October the 20TH for the group buy and that is 2 weeks from today- October the 6TH. I will do my best to negotiate with FullBore on the numbers we need for production and search for other intrest in this product in other sectors to get the number we need. If I fail to come up with enough for the GROUP BUY then you will be refunded for your full amount paid rest assured.

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    How is being realistic bashing you?? I've been here a long time and seen allot of things made and sold; It's impossible to please everyone.

    Many people HAVE NOTHING and will happily mount anything even close to there 86/87; It is a tough shell to find...........

    We have guys that use epoxy and bungy cords to keep their fenders/seats on so plenty of people should be happy.

    Others may find fault in them, who knows. There's no sample to look at and that may be your hold up.

    Just ask Brad about buying molds and trying to get the $$ out of the guys who were "IN" on the group buy and his shrouds are excellent, but very easy to make too.............
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    good idea dirtcrasher (steve), honda200x1987 I wouldnt take these coments as bashing take it as the experienced guys helping you out . that might not be a bad idea if you or someone wanted to negotiate with full bore a price to have the mold made and if they are vac forming It shouldnt be more than $1000 tops , buy the mold and have them make a sample up , then you have a tangible item to test mount take pictures of etc and then take orders from there , if you have custom parts made from maier thats how they do it in fact i dont even think they charge you for the mold till you are happy with the sample , just trying to help

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