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Arm chair racerJust too addicted
I recently picked up another 250r from a seller in the Midwest, got some time recently to get it running, the usual rebuilding of carbs, bearings etc. TO my disbelief again when I drained the crankcase it was filled with ATF, my Tecate when I purchased that too had ATF in the crankcase, now I know the atf is thinner,but why am I seeing this a lot more then years past, did I miss the service bulletin?
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some people swear by tranny fluid in the crankcase.it has good properties over motor oil.
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It absorbs water if you ever get any in there, other than that it seems far too thin to be a good gear oil but I'll set it shifts a bit slicker
EDIT - I remember reading in dirtbike/dirtrider or whatever it was that Ricky Johnson "supposedly" ran vegetable oil in his tranny
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I've run ATF before, I prefer BelRay Gearsaver 80W tho...
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Just Too Addicted
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Stupid question, I can see the properties involving water, it is a friction reducer as well? How can the ATF lubricate the bearings and gears like oil? There properties are not similar.
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88 TRX LRD,39MM pwk,Durablue+4.Nice rider
85 250r West Coast +4,Durablue +4,Boyesen rad valve,Keihin 39mm,Rad double row carrier
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85 350x-all new everthing,trailer queen,all OEM-NOT FOR SALE!!
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2-85 T-3 Tecates all the bells and whistles
85 T-3 project trike in works
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i have run ATF in my trike, and in my car as well. the ATF is a detergent and helps clean carbon deposits and oil sludge. when i got my 185s, it wouldnt shift very good, the lever was sticking and it took a lot of force to put it in gear. i ran a quart of tranny fluid in it for about 4 hours maybe(on and off) and drained it and changed with a fresh quart of Pennzoil synthetic, rode for a few hours then changed it again. i could see chucks of oil sluge coming out of the crankcase. but it really fixed my shifting problem and it takes a longer time to darken up the oil. In a car, mix a quart of ATF with your oil, run for about 500 miles, then drain the tar like substance out of your oil pan. the ATF cleans all the oil passages out. i have yet to see any negative effects from running it in a motor for a short period of time
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Short time-there is the question of the day-I wonder why it is in there and how long it has been in there-both are/were used when purchased with limited knowledge on there maintenance prior to purchase.Originally Posted by 83ATC185
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88 TRX LRD,39MM pwk,Durablue+4.Nice rider
85 250r West Coast +4,Durablue +4,Boyesen rad valve,Keihin 39mm,Rad double row carrier
86 250R west coast +4,Durablue+4,Maier plasitcs, Keihin, Boyesen,Wiseco big bore kit
85 350x-all new everthing,trailer queen,all OEM-NOT FOR SALE!!
4-FL400R HONDA PILOTS.See my section on the page!
2-85 T-3 Tecates all the bells and whistles
85 T-3 project trike in works
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ATF wicks heat away very well, but some types (F and H) have slip additives that ruin clutches. I would run Dex/Merc III in a bike to clean it out, then run Rotella T Diesel oil. Always worked for me. for cars, I usually put ATF down the intake if it has been sitting or taking in bad gas, cleans up valves well. ATF in oil for over 500 miles will rape your main and rod bearings, and if its a Chevy 216 Inline, you are screwed anyway, splash lubrication in bottom end.
In all, run Dex/Merc III for a few laps in anything. ATF works well in manual trannies as well.
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what about mixing ATF with gas and running it in a trike?
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The clutch disk in a trike is basically the same type disk that are in an automatic transmission. As far as it lubricating bearings and gears, most transfer cases in trucks on the road today run ATF in them also, so I guess it does fine as a lubricant.
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I've ran nothing but ATF type FA in the bottom ends of my 2 strokes (several 250Rs, 500R, Tri-Z) for about the past 6-7 years with no problems...the shift better, the engines rev quicker. I like it.
I would not run it in a 4 stroke engine.
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I too run atf type F in all my two strokes. The only issue I've ever had with it is it tends to leak out of worn seals easier than a thicker gear weight oil. I like the feel of the clutch with Type F over gear oil.
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use ATF +4 its much better
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Interesting. What's better about it? Better feel, or just better for the tranny?
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Better for transmission and clutch. Better on fiber plates.
You will cry, you will scream if you've heard half the **** I've seen.
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