You could run a sway bar and it would make it more stable.
You could run a sway bar and it would make it more stable.
1985 Honda 200x
1986 Honda TRX350D - Gone but not forgotten 1982 Honda 185s*sold* 1985 200x*sold* 1983 200x*sold* 1985 ATC70*sold* 2002 Honda 400EX*sold*
The sway bar is defeating the purpose of having IRS. You want IRS and then you're going to put a sway bar on it to keep it from doing what it's supposed to do. It's good for cars and quads. On a trike? No way.
85 Tri-Zinger 60
85 ATC250SX
86 ATC250SX
87 ATC250SX
02 XR650L conversion
84 ATC 480R
xxllmm4- So it would be stable if just riding sitting strait up and when ya lean, it would with you? Like some of the road trikes or independent rear suspension. It would also absorb a large rock or stump being able to raise one tire while other tire stays in contact with the earth. It'd handle & feel different than our current 3-wheelers, but actually keep more rubber on the road. I'd like the feel of that concept as well as the current ride. Good Idea. Oh, my mom & dad just moved from Hillsboro to Cornelius (to a retirement trailer court) a couple of Months ago, so I've been keeping my eyes open for riding buddies when me and the kids get over there to visit.
83' 200x (son's). 85' 200 auto-x & 85' 125m (daughters). 84' Tecate(?). 85' KXT Tecate (mine!, mine!, mine!.)+ some others but don't feel like typing them in.
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'85 ATC250R
.030 Over Wiseco
FMF Pipe/Answer silencer
36PJ Keihin
K&N
Boyesen reeds
Magura hydraulic clutch
Roost Boost
MSR bars
OMF swingarm skid
ITP Beadlocks
Three Wheelin' Since '84
If you want a better ride, why not simply minimize unsprung weight, instead of increasing it, and run long soft suspension? Doesn't a 3 wheeler alway have all 3 wheels in contact with the ground at low speeds, owing to the very design of 3 wheels? A tripod for instance, can never wobble. A 4 legged table must conform to the surface or else it rocks.
84 200x
for the money u could just get a older 4x4 with irs and cruise over the bumps. i have seen some pretty cheap polaris sportman 500s out there if your looking for such a soft ride. my 1999 foreman 450 with solid axle rides nice to over the slow bumpy trails compared to any trike i have driven . IMO IRS doesn't ride that nice for the weight and crappier handling it gives. i rode a trx700xx and was really disappointed. id rather just have a bumpy ride and just stand over the bumps.
I was thinking a concept of this:http://www.gizmag.com/go/6823/, only more simple, when I looked. It would be reversed of course, but it dosen't just fall over when sitting on it. It'd be a cool concept for a good builder to create. I'm not a schemeatic designer, or a good mechanic, but lots of folk on this site are and I believe it'd be a cool accomplishment. Some are not concerned with the long term money, it's the build that challenges them. The doubters are the fuel for success. TPC trikes didn't listen and I'm glad, neither did the designer of the Can-Am Spyder. After one got used to the feel of riding it, it'd be a blast. Same notion as a 3-wheeler rider likes the feel vs. a 4-wheeled atv. (any cycle is fun to ride!)
83' 200x (son's). 85' 200 auto-x & 85' 125m (daughters). 84' Tecate(?). 85' KXT Tecate (mine!, mine!, mine!.)+ some others but don't feel like typing them in.
85 Tri-Zinger 60
85 ATC250SX
86 ATC250SX
87 ATC250SX
02 XR650L conversion
84 ATC 480R
In the 80`s a italian company named italjet made 3wheelers with intepentent rear suspension. the ranger 125 for example. never seen one in person but there are a few pics of them on the net..
[IMG]http://www.lanciaflavia.it/public_ol...1241621299.jpg[/IMG]
they also made a 330cc 2-stroke with IRS
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3 wheel fully independent suspension double chain drive, lots of 'em in Russia packing stuff around never saw one on its side tough little beasts
I run a 700XX as my primary ride. I love it. Air or corners isnt an issue with 4 wheels. In fact I have bee mulling over cutting the nose off it and mating it with a 250R frame I have. The power is nice and the wieght is the only draw back, Although slight.
1987 Honda 200X 90% way through frame up.
1987 CR500R Motor, Soon to be a 540 ATC motor
1986 250R frame, For now
2008 Honda 700XX
2004 KFX700 Torque monster!
2011 Can-Am Commander 1000X
Looking for misc Liquid R parts
Thanks for the info everyone, and thanks for the pics!! I'll have to look into those factory made bikes. I would love to play around with the idea but dont really have the time or funds right now, I have too many projects on the bench right now. When i'm done with the fatcat 200s conversion I may have to take a look into this more closely. I would sure love to talk to someone that has rode one of thoes Italian jobs!
Last Jan at Summit I had the chance to sit down with Bill from TPC for a few hours in my hotel room and bend his ear on this subject. I had a chance to pu a 700 TRX and was thinking of doing this. Sure it can be done but there is no stilabilty in it for what I want to use it for, racing. That extra wheel up front makes a big diff on how it rides and lands. Lets put it like this have you ever blew a rear tire on your trike and take a corner hard on the flat side? Ever try landing on a flat rear after some big air? It's not easy or pretty.( I have a vid of me on a blow-out while landing) You need that solid axle it keeps you ballanced. I ride my buddy's 700 quite often and when corring hare you see and feel the ft tire biting and the same on uneven landings. Without that extra tire you loose alot. As I said I'm probley wrong as I often am but it's a neat idea. I'm surprised the older wiser members haven't "chimed in" on this.
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