Icefest 2011!

**fabiodriven** · 03-14-2011, 10:06 AM

That would explain it. We left at about 2 on Sunday.

**Tri-ZNate** · 03-14-2011, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by CRAZY70MAN

Don't know???? It was pretty late on Sunday. Glad he found it. Got some stuff to sell and almost bought a new one. Maybe we could have drags on Saturday next year if we had time and some more help with running it keeping it plowed?? I have some video at the finish line of one drag race on my camera, will post up.

My Big Red will have a plow next year to help out. Maybe plow races

?

**JohnR.** · 03-14-2011, 06:13 PM

Maybe flat track on Saturday and drags on Sunday? I ran out there and plowed a drag strip out and it took all of 10 minutes. Not really much to maintain like there is on the ovals.

John

**Bryan Raffa** · 03-14-2011, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Tri-ZNate

My Big Red will have a plow next year to help out. Maybe plow races

?

Sweet! Andy has been Promoted to head Plowmaster ,, you will be under his command,, this will leave me free during the racing..in 2012.. maybe we can get Mr Hartmans big red and plow also.. a tripple red plow team ... wow!

So Im rakeing my yard saterday getting all the beer bottles in the bushes and beer caps and cigarette butts up and I find a bunch of these!!! I know where these came from!!!!

and who gives 5cents off a tire...

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**JohnR.** · 03-14-2011, 06:27 PM

Next year I will bring my plow quad again but I can't do both duties again. It was just too much. I'll let someone else use it to clean up but I can't be out there plowing, scramble over to my trike, hop on it, and expect to have my head focused.

**Bryan Raffa** · 03-14-2011, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by JohnR.

Next year I will bring my plow quad again but I can't do both duties again. It was just too much. I'll let someone else use it to clean up but I can't be out there plowing, scramble over to my trike, hop on it, and expect to have my head focused.

both my bikes were dead cold ,, and I missed a race because of it.. I moved races around for other members so there bikes could be warmed up ... and I myself payed for it,,, not next year.... I will be 100% stricter. Come to think of it.. I didnt practice once!

**cattle-dog** · 03-14-2011, 06:40 PM

i would gladly help drive a plow as i only run in the four stroke class but can only do friday night,saturday and sunday as i dont get monday off.

**CRAZY70MAN** · 03-14-2011, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Bryan Raffa

Sweet! Andy has been Promoted to head Plowmaster ,, you will be under his command,, this will leave me free during the racing..in 2012.. maybe we can get Mr Hartmans big red and plow also.. a tripple red plow team ... wow!

So Im rakeing my yard saterday getting all the beer bottles in the bushes and beer caps and cigarette butts up and I find a bunch of these!!! I know where these came from!!!!

and who gives 5cents off a tire...

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Freakin cheap Canadian stores.............

....just kiddin..........5 cents off???

triple trike plows would be pretty neat!! Count on me Raffa..I shall head the committee to free you up a little as you got a lot of sh%^ going on. Hopefully....we will not need to have another Plowfest though...p.s........What might have the Canadians been up to in the bushes anyway??

**Bryan Raffa** · 03-14-2011, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by cattle-dog

i would gladly help drive a plow as i only run in the four stroke class but can only do friday night,saturday and sunday as i dont get monday off.

monday is a lax day ,,anyways,, pull the kids on sleds, hang out ,,, clean up.. I will take you up on the offer tho! thank you!

**Bryan Raffa** · 03-14-2011, 07:18 PM

found brown duck boot's on lower porch..

Possibly chris200x when he fell in?

**Bryan Raffa** · 03-14-2011, 07:32 PM

QUOTE=JohnR.;986233]I did bring it up but in the excitement of the race starting no one seemed to be interested in what I had to say. I mentioned it a couple of times and when no one seemed to want to hear it I let it go and watched the rest of the race. Whether it determined the outcome of the race or not probably depends on how it would have been handled. If they had sent John to the back it might have made it more difficult but I'm sure he'd have managed to grab himself second place seeing as how the hardest thing to do in a tight track is get around someone no matter if you are a little faster than them or not.

I think stuff like this is all part of the learning curve and a few lessons were learned from that race. For one, we might need to do something like they do at a MX track when the gates are broken which is a large rubber band (i.e. piece of surgical tubing) stretched across the gate for the start. Secondly is that we need a couple of sets of IMPARTIAL eyes on the start and if ANY of the officials calls it a false start then that's what it is and those who jumped are subject to a predetermined penalty. Lastly we need to make a rule for what happens to those who jump the start. When I ran flat track here (indoor and outdoor) any and all riders who jumped the start went to the back of the pack at the start. They didn't use any rubber band or gate, just the officials word. I remember some races at the indoors where 5 out of 6 quads jumped and the smart racer who never got caught up in the moment at the line found himself in the front row all by himself with the 5 other guys two rows deep behind him.

I also think we might want to re-think only having 5 laps as a main. Maybe 5 for the heats but I'd love to see 10 as a heat race and 15 or 20 as a main depending on the size of the track to make it more than just a 3 minute sprint. One of the most fun races I did was a 40 lap race on a 1/4 mile dirt oval, it took about 15 minutes of running flat out to get to the end. I remember breathing a sigh of relief at the halfway flags and just about crying with joy when I saw the 2 to go flags.

I would also propose that we find a fair way to determine where the riders start in the grid. Maybe have each of us pull a card from a deck of cards and whoever gets the highest card picks his spot first and so on down the line. Just having from 2 up to Aces without any duplicates would avoid the possibility of having two riders pick the same card. Lastly, even when I did the outdoor 1/4 mile track they did not line us up 5 or 6 abreast and that had a pretty wide front stretch and first turn. We had two rows with whoever won the heat races getting the first two spots and so on down the line. I think two rows of 3 would probably be better in this instance but all of it is just suggestions. Obviously, the last one kind of interferes with the whole "card pick" idea so that would have to be sorted out.

Not trying to nit-pick, just giving some suggestions.

Next year I won't be on the sideline to watch the start because I'm planning on being in the feature. I won't have run myself down prepping another trike to the point that I couldn't think straight right before the heat and cost myself a top three in the heat race. It's one thing to get beat by someone else, its another all together more frustrating thing to pretty much beat yourself. :banghead:

John[/QUOTE]

and dont think I didnt read that .. all good points.. ruleing out all possibilitys is the key..starting gate and Line has been handled..Plow Crew has been handled.. By all means if your comeing and can fit a plow.. bring it.. from now on!,, Idealy I would like to clean the ice every moto!

the problem is keeping track of each person on a 40 lap moto..