t3 bearing carrier...

[cr480r]

I will never forget the first time I heard "Joes Garage". Being a musician (drums) I get into experimental stuff like that. Maybe there is some other possibities/advantages to using YFZ, KXF, or LTR as opposed to Honda? Just a thought.

the honda has the correct sprocket offset for the kx motor.. i think the others are wider

[Maico]

I will never forget the first time I heard "Joes Garage". Being a musician (drums) I get into experimental stuff like that. Maybe there is some other possibities/advantages to using YFZ, KXF, or LTR as opposed to Honda? Just a thought.

Joe's Garage is 1 of my favorites...along with Sheik Yerbouti and Shut up and play yer guitar.

I'm not real familiar with the YZF,KXF or LTR stuff. It all comes down to what would align up the best without...or very little...machining.

[nstyle73]

Not to break up the music fest, but there is a pic of the 86 T3 Rad Bearing Carrier in the 'Monster in the Making' thread, its pretty sweet with tapered roller bearings rather than ball bearings, but the three piece design allows for wear and therefore slop with age.

[Jeepermc]

Just a brainstorm after reading through this again and looking at all the talk about custom this and swap that. After seeing TecateDan lengthen his stock swingarm (steel) why couldn't a guy pick up a cheap used honda 300EX (steel) swinger and graft the carrier from it to the stock swingarm in the lengthening process? I don't know if the older 400ex swinger was steel or not but it too could be an option for grafting?

[fabiodriven]

Just a brainstorm after reading through this again and looking at all the talk about custom this and swap that. After seeing TecateDan lengthen his stock swingarm (steel) why couldn't a guy pick up a cheap used honda 300EX (steel) swinger and graft the carrier from it to the stock swingarm in the lengthening process? I don't know if the older 400ex swinger was steel or not but it too could be an option for grafting?

Thank you Jeeper, that is going to be my next project. I can't believe I didn't think of that myself!

I wish this had been brought up before we lengthened Dan's swinger.

[cr480r]

why couldn't a guy pick up a cheap used honda 300EX (steel) swinger and graft the carrier from it to the stock swingarm in the lengthening process? I don't know if the older 400ex swinger was steel or not but it too could be an option for grafting?

I have a 300ex rear end i have been saving for this very reason.. 400ex's are alum.. but someone with a lathe could whip up a steel tube with ease, or steal one from an '86 250r

[tecat-z]

Frank was the best. I listen to his stuff as much as possible. As Frank said..."Music Is The Best"

I'm not a 1st gen guy but I feel their pain. It's the same pain us 2nd gen Tecate owners have. No swap over parts. A custom swing arm using late model Honda parts would solve that.

Looks like I need to get the ball rolling on a custom swingarm for us tecate guyz.

The balls been rollin' for years.... This is nothing new. If ya want one, HRE will build ya one. But let me tell ya. The 400ex rear end will add LOTS of weight. HRE arms are nice, but very heavy. Not to mention the heavy anchor type material the 400ex uses to support all of it's mass. Oem 1st gen stuff is light. I always make it a point to cut weight, not add. If ya got the pockets, sure ya can get alm hubs for spkt, brk rotor, and wheels. If you're gonna have a custom arm made then it will be at least a +2 with a custom line. Add this up and it's big money. Go cheap if that's what ya want "relative" and you better make some more power to move the extra weight, and make changes to the rear suspension. Weight effects all of this. Just sayin' So whose steppin' up?

[200x Basket]

250sx on .org had a hre swinger made for his 86 t3. it uses new honda parts but i am not sure if it was 300ex, 450r, 400ex, or what.

[tecat-z]

Yep, i saw it at the Rampage in 09. As mentioned, BGM had one made in 08 for 1st gen.

[fabiodriven]

The idea of the Kawi front half of the swinger with the Honda rear sounded really simple to me earlier, but I realized something that could bugger it all right up. If the sprocket doesn't like up, I'll have to make a hub. That I cannot do....

[cr480r]

the hre arm does look a lil overkill for most.. I know its gusseted much heavier than i would need, but hre isnt the only guy that could build one of these.. and a round carrier design swingarm can actually be built lighter, as the carrier tube adds stiffness, and uses less hardware to do the same job. a stock t3 axle may be lightweight compared to the larger bearings and axle diameter of the ex, but an extended tecate axle is anything but light..niether are wheel spacers.. tecate hubs and 10" wheels are not exactly feather weights... and for those with deep pockets wanting an extreme lightweight and trick setup could use a honda design aftermarket aluminum axle like a jj&a for drag or ice race situations.. The tecate stuff works fine, and does have some merits like nostalgia, and originality, and easy to take apart. But for a person that has several components in need of replacement, or wanting to alter both length and width it just doesnt make sense to fight over rare used parts..

The idea of the Kawi front half of the swinger with the Honda rear sounded really simple to me earlier, but I realized something that could bugger it all right up. If the sprocket doesn't like up, I'll have to make a hub. That I cannot do....

the carrier lines up pretty dang close.. and if it was off a fractional amount the carrier can be offset when building the arm like i am gonna do for mine. I am planning to use an Lt250r carrier and axle(already got it and a alum carrier tube) and i will need to offset the carrier .100" to align the chain. I might be wrong, but I think honda stuff is right on for align.

[Tecate 50]

I believe when I weighed my HRE +5 swingarm it was 17 pounds, made with .0120 moly! That same arm can be built with .083 moly, and could easily shed 3 pounds as HRE stated! But as he stated....you risk cracks with the lighter wall thickness. My +2 West Coast weighed 11 to 12 pounds if I remember correctly. So IMO the HRE isn't that heavy. If weight is the issue, then shed 10 pounds for the season.....lol. I still use the factory Tecate rear end.

[fabiodriven]

If the sprocket lines up that close, then I'm golden.

[cr480r]

I still use the factory Tecate rear end.

would you have went that route if you didnt already have a good tecate rear end setup, wheels, etc??

If the sprocket lines up that close, then I'm golden.

I got a a 300ex setup I can measure for you in a day or two.. I not sure about 250r/400ex, but i think its similar as i've seen 400ex stuff used on 300ex's. my plan was to cut the carrier tube off the 300 swingarm and build from scratch. but now i wanna go aluminum using a kx front section and linkage cuz my bike is already set up for it.

[fabiodriven]

Don't go apeshit on my account, I'm not jumping right into this. It's something I would like to do at some point though.