yt 225DX pullstart help

[mdwohleber56]

so got all the parts in and got it all put together but the pull start is to ruff to get it started. i just replaced the spring because it wasnt recoiling witch didnt help but also it seems to be very hard to turn. it there anything i should lub up that would help?

[muthey]

loosen the nut that holds it all together, it will lock it up tight if you torque it too much , also lube the shaft that it all sits on and grease your rope, will help it last longer

[mdwohleber56]

thanks do u have any advice for the engine being hard to turn? anywhere easy to drop some oil or something?

[Kevo225dx]

Are you using the compression release?

[muthey]

does your motor burn oil cause I use my pull start all the time and it shouldn't be really hard to torn the motor over, also check your auto clutch adjustment you might be fight the tranny, if it is burning oil your rings might be shot and close to seizing the piston

[2Tim215]

I would do a oil change, make sure you are using the right weight for winter riding, like mentioned above be sure to use your decompression lever on the top right side of the motor, and look in your old oil to be sure you don't find any metal particles etc. Also make sure you don't overfill the oil. Hope it works out for you!

[muthey]

what is the weather like there, how cold, cause I know for a fact in my 225, that once it gets below 32*, they get hard to start, I use my electric start to loosen the motor then in a couple of pulls it fires right up, and I'm using 5/30 Valvoline, that may be all your problem is, just thought of that while looking at the weather channel

[mdwohleber56]

how much oil does the engine hold? the engine was a fresh rebuild so all the fluids where dry. just wanna make sure i dont over fill it. and the decompression lever i'll give a try ive never had anything with a pull start before it was always either kick or the starter acually worked. and yea its real cold out here in pennsylvania. probly like 20 something outside.

[mdwohleber56]

oh yea it moves so much better with the lever being pulled up. i still cant get it to turn over tho. i kno my battery is completly dead tryed hookin a charger up to it and it woulnt pull nothin. can i jump start these things by rollin down the hill then puttin it in gear? how much gas should i give it when trying to start it? should i have the gas peacock on on or fuel? these machines r foreign to me.

[mdwohleber56]

so the battery from the parts trike could hold a charge so i swapped it but now when i push the start button it makes like a clicking nose from under the seat? any ideas?

[2Tim215]

Low battery or the motor is to tight to turn over? Try pulling the spark plug and see if it turns over with the pull start. Never jump start a ATV with a running vehicle, burns out the CDI box. There is a little black plug in box (someone help me with the name!), that plugs in under the seat at the rear of the bike. If it is bad it will click when you hit the start button. Take the one off of your parts bike, clean the connections with a wire brush carefully so that you don't damage the prongs and see if that turns it over with the plug out. Also try and be sure you are in neutral and not in between by rocking it back and forth in first while shifting down to neutral. Maybe something in the gears binding as someone mentioned above? If you hear any noise in the top end with the plug out don't try and start anymore so you don't damage your sleeve in case its a broken ring. Hope it works out!

[muthey]

the black plug is the starter relay, also when trying to electric start it lift a little on the shift lever sometimes the neutral switch needs adjusting, and it won't register at actual neutral, mine is like that. If you are trying to pull start it rock it all the way into 5th gear, and hook it up to the back of a vehicle. While in fifth bring the shift lever up which will pull it out of gear until you get to about 15 mph. Make sure the choke is pulled and don't give any throttle, if it's anything like mine it will flood that way, when it starts to run start dropping gears really fast to get back to neutral, and let it warm up, but like mentioned above pull the spark plug first to make sure your motor isn't partially seized, if it is pull starting it will really destroy the top end if it is. best of luck and hope all works out for you. I recommend going to a pure synthetic oil as they will stay liquid all the way to about -50*, I was flooding mine out trying to pull start it before I put a new battery in it. If you get the electric start to work turn off the fuel till you get the motor oil loosened, then turn the fuel on wait a couple of mins for the bowl to fill and try pull starting it. It should only take a couple of cranks with the electric starter to get it loosened, also never hold it for more than 20 seconds, they will burn out or drain a bettery pretty quick if held too long

[mdwohleber56]

ok so the green nutrual light comes on and that lil black box i put in was brand spankin new. the clicking is coming from the starter solinoid under the seat is that sapose to happen? also wast r the gears in this thing? i was thinking all the way down was 1st then neutral between 1st and 2nd then 3rd and so on. if these are auto clutches is there a neutral switch or something to have held in to do the car thing? i was thinking of pushing it down this steep hill i have and dropin it into first or 2nd. and how much oil should it take to fill these things? 1 qt 2 qts?

[2Tim215]

The gears are all 5 up, last one down is neutral, sounds like bad battery you shouldn't have any clicking sounds at all, or motor froze. Did you change the oil and do the other steps we outlined above? It holds 1.9 quarts when completely empty. Be sure not loose the black O ring when removing the oil drain plug and when refilling check the oil level after about 1 1/2 quarts and then add from there until full. And did you try and pull it over with the pull start with the spark plug out? WE need to know if you are following our advice to continue to help you. Thanks, Tim

[muthey]

yes definitely try to pull start it withe the spark plug out. Anymore info we can provide you will depend on the condition of the motor which you will be able to provide us with the plug out and trying to pull start it also i don't recall if you had done a spark test yet to verify that you had spark at all, that will bring us into a whole new area of repair if there is no spark