clutchless shifting?

[jellybelly559]

so my clutch broke like half my ride in, i would pull the lever in and it wouldnt activate,so i said f*** it and kept riding just didnt let my bike shut off and was shifting in the high rpms (in the powerband,let off gas for a split second and shift up, stayed in the powerband?) im going to replace the clutch hopefully soon.....anything else i should look for? im kinda scared to look

[jellybelly559]

any one know?

[1984 honda 200s]

my mx bike was like that too, only a bit of the clutch left,,, so i power shifted, some people says its ok other say opposite. my dad had a 250xl in his younger years and he always power shifted, had the bike for years and nothing changed, id say good to go? as long as you dont miss a shift especially a 2stroke LOL

[justin4]

i ride my 250r the 84 and i usethe clutch to start and stop that is it. been doing it for a year no prob. (yet) but its got a good clutch in it.

[EarlyBronocGuy]

The only time I use the clutch on my 200x is starting from a stop - once it's moving, it'll shift up and down with no trouble at all, just let off the gas a little.

[jmax857]

my mx bike was like that too, only a bit of the clutch left,,, so i power shifted, some people says its ok other say opposite. my dad had a 250xl in his younger years and he always power shifted, had the bike for years and nothing changed, id say good to go? as long as you dont miss a shift especially a 2stroke LOL

way off, when your clutch wears out, it slips. whether you shift without it or not, its still slipping. if its grabbing too much you either had grooves in your basket or it was improperly set up. second if there is something wrong it is absolutely not okay to keep riding it. fix the problem, last thing you want is for something to actually break and potentially ruin a perfectly good set of r cases.

as for the original post. check your cables, clutch rod, adjuster etc. your best bet is to take off the cover and have a gander.
if your wondering if it is o.k to drive without using the clutch to shift, i use it to start, stop, and dump it once in a while to get my revs up. thats it, if something breaks related to that, no one but yourself is to blame. and yes i have replace my fai share of shift forks.

[Mr_RPM]

if your clutch works, and your not racing to save your life, then learn to ride and use your dang clutch. Id imagine if your not smart enough or to lazy to use it then you wont be looking forward to splitting the case and fixing the trans.

I mean, its as simple as pulling a lever.

But for the OP, i can understand not using the clutch to get back home.
you may be lucky and get away with no clutch for weeks, months, even years.

but, Its not the odds, but whats at risk.
again, using the clutch between shifts is as easy as it gets.
what next, not using the brakes?

lol thats just how I feel. =P

[jellybelly559]

i was push starting it because i was scared it would b worst to start from a stop with no clutch.......i was asking because ive heard both yes and no about using the clutch when your already going...

[jellybelly559]

if your clutch works, and your not racing to save your life, then learn to ride and use your dang clutch. Id imagine if your not smart enough or to lazy to use it then you wont be looking forward to splitting the case and fixing the trans.

I mean, its as simple as pulling a lever.

But for the OP, i can understand not using the clutch to get back home.
you may be lucky and get away with no clutch for weeks, months, even years.

but, Its not the odds, but whats at risk.
again, using the clutch between shifts is as easy as it gets.
what next, not using the brakes?

lol thats just how I feel. =P

this is the first time ive rode with out using the clutch,i prefer to use it just to be safe and make sure i dont mess anything up, i know how to use it its just today it literally wouldnt engage,i was in 6th gear pinned i pulled in the clutch and front brake to start slowing down i stayed on the clutch and break and i was approaching a turn and put it into 2nd or 1st and out of nowhere i felt the gear grab while i had the clutch pulled in so i threw it in neutral as fast as i could so i didnt over rev the engine and blow the piston,rings gaskets, etc. i felt it grab so i called several people and i had 1/2 no and 1/2 yes saying it was okay with no clutch,i would rather ask people with similar machines as me so thats why i started this post,sorry for the essay lol

[1984 honda 200s]

see what i mean LOL! some say ok some say use the clutch. oh and for my mx, the clutch wont grab at all, its fine taking off, you put it in gear witht he clutch pulled in and it wants to jump ahead, cable is adjusted all the way, no difference.

[jmax857]

i was push starting it because i was scared it would b worst to start from a stop with no clutch.......i was asking because ive heard both yes and no about using the clutch when your already going...

yes it works and your bike wont explode as soon as you do it, but over time you will get pre-mature wear on the internals of your transmission in the bike.

[1984 honda 200s]

if your clutch works, and your not racing to save your life, then learn to ride and use your dang clutch. Id imagine if your not smart enough or to lazy to use it then you wont be looking forward to splitting the case and fixing the trans.

I mean, its as simple as pulling a lever.

But for the OP, i can understand not using the clutch to get back home.
you may be lucky and get away with no clutch for weeks, months, even years.

but, Its not the odds, but whats at risk.
again, using the clutch between shifts is as easy as it gets.
what next, not using the brakes?

lol thats just how I feel. =P

breaks just slow me down LMAO :P

[jmax857]

see what i mean LOL! some say ok some say use the clutch. oh and for my mx, the clutch wont grab at all, its fine taking off, you put it in gear witht he clutch pulled in and it wants to jump ahead, cable is adjusted all the way, no difference.

and there is alot more to adjusting a clutch than tightening the cable.

[1984 honda 200s]

i'll start another thread and you tell me how to fix it?

[cr480r]

i was push starting it because i was scared it would b worst to start from a stop with no clutch.......i was asking because ive heard both yes and no about using the clutch when your already going...

the big thing about clutchless shifting is that not everybody is good at it.. just cuz it goes in gear doesnt mean you are doing it right.. the shifter should click just as easy or easier than with the clutch if you are doing it right and being easy on parts.. That being said, there really is no good reason not to use the clutch... i have rode plenty of clutchless machines home for myself and others. Mostly due to broken off levers... But for safety of the rider and machine it needs to be fixed before you take it out again or you are asking for trouble..