clutchless shifting?

[Mosh]

I am going to play devils advocate here.
I have split many engines and quite few for shifting issues.
IMO, I don't care what anyone says or how they do it, shifting without the clutch will eventually ruin your gears and shift forks. If you break a cable and have to limp a machine back to camp at low speeds and loads and back off the throttle while shifting, I doubt any damage will be done. But I personally would not advise regular riding in that fashion.

Josh, I just did your old 250r engine that went through 3 different racers, and I had to replace one of the third gears due to hogged out engagement dogs.



If you are the person that rides a bike for a few years and sells it, then I guess it would not really matter. But if you are holding on to your bike as long as possible, personally I would not make a habit out of not using the clutch. Especially with a 250R, since about 80 % of the trans parts are now discontinued.
Here is a few threads showing the damage it does.

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...smission+gears

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...smission+gears

[Mr_RPM]

If you are the person that rides a bike for a few years and sells it, then I guess it would not really matter. But if you are holding on to your bike as long as possible, personally I would not make a habit out of not using the clutch.

100% agree

[Kintore]

Josh, I just did your old 250r engine that went through 3 different racers, and I had to replace one of the third gears due to hogged out engagement dogs.

I stand corrected then, That motor was built from Hall into Brandons(3leg) race trike, for 2 seasons I think. I ran it for 1.5 seasons, then snake ran it for another 1.5-2 seasons.

We are not easy on trannys, at all. I know how we all ride.