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Thread: Honda Rear Brake Drum

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    Honda Rear Brake Drum

    so I have read and read posts about getting the rear brake drum of these machines, and really other than a BFH and PB Blaster is about all the info I can find... so I bought some PB Blaster and have a BFH now what... where do I bang the drum? do these eventually slide off similar to car brake drums? Anyone have tips to get these things off there? PB Blaster been soaking on there for a few days now and I still see no sign of movement...
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    I put a section of pipe over the splines on the axle so as not to damage the threads and proceeded to wail on it with said BFH and drove the axle out of the drum. I didnt have any luck hitting the drum. The axle comes out pretty easy.
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    my bench weighs ~550lb and i drove it 4 feet with a 10lb sledge trying to free the drum and that is with a torch to heat it its still firmly in place didn't move a fraction. going to end up cutting it off with the torch i think and that sucks since the brakes worked great i just need to change the bearings lol thats on the 81 200.

    The drum on the 84' popped right off with a couple taps from a pipe wrench lol
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    I see a seam on the brake drum (right about where the guard sits), does it split away there? or does the complete drum set back into the guard that is around it?
    I was hoping I wasnt going to have to remove the axle but it seems that its on there pretty dang good... I will keep hitting it with the PB stuff and whack on it some more, maybe I will get lucky (they say lucky is better than good at times, I think this is one of those times!!!!)
    Any other tips and or suggestions welcome!!!
    3 Wheels:
    1984 Honda 200S
    1983 Yamaha YT-175 TriMoto (SOLD)
    1984 Yamaha YFM-200E TriMoto (SOLD)

    4 Wheels:
    1985 Suzuki LT-185 Quad (my wife's)

    2 Wheels:
    2003 Honda Shadow ACE 750

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    if you braek it i have one off a 1984 200m that i can sell to you for cheap
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    Thanks Hillbilly... Trying to get her ready for the Ganny run on the 1st... I appreciate the offer and I will let you know how it ends up.
    Cheers,
    Ron
    3 Wheels:
    1984 Honda 200S
    1983 Yamaha YT-175 TriMoto (SOLD)
    1984 Yamaha YFM-200E TriMoto (SOLD)

    4 Wheels:
    1985 Suzuki LT-185 Quad (my wife's)

    2 Wheels:
    2003 Honda Shadow ACE 750

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    no problem hope it goes well my drum is here if you need it
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    1984 110 project
    1984 125 parts bike
    1983 honda 200x
    19 85x2honda 200x
    1985 honda 250sx
    1985 honda 250es
    polaris p3 should be a parts bike ***gas tank wanted**

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    Well no luck with the whack and swear method, so I guess its drive the axle out time... I have read post about this process and it seems pretty straight forward, but do I actually need to remove the rear sproket? Or just make sure the chain and chain cover are off??
    The bearings in the back are all new so I wont need to go that far as to bang it all the way out, just enough to get the drum off...
    3 Wheels:
    1984 Honda 200S
    1983 Yamaha YT-175 TriMoto (SOLD)
    1984 Yamaha YFM-200E TriMoto (SOLD)

    4 Wheels:
    1985 Suzuki LT-185 Quad (my wife's)

    2 Wheels:
    2003 Honda Shadow ACE 750

    *If life hands you lemons, grab some tequilla and make the best of it!!!!*

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    yea you gota get either the drum or the sproket off.
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    FINALLY!!!!... The axle started to move this morning while whacking it, and boom the drum popped right off...Brake pads liners had separated from the shoes, drum looks to be in ok shape... maybe just maybe I will have rear brakes again!!!
    Thanks guys!
    3 Wheels:
    1984 Honda 200S
    1983 Yamaha YT-175 TriMoto (SOLD)
    1984 Yamaha YFM-200E TriMoto (SOLD)

    4 Wheels:
    1985 Suzuki LT-185 Quad (my wife's)

    2 Wheels:
    2003 Honda Shadow ACE 750

    *If life hands you lemons, grab some tequilla and make the best of it!!!!*

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    For those interested I followed the manual in the removal of the rear axle, and other than whacking away at it the manual was bang on...
    3 Wheels:
    1984 Honda 200S
    1983 Yamaha YT-175 TriMoto (SOLD)
    1984 Yamaha YFM-200E TriMoto (SOLD)

    4 Wheels:
    1985 Suzuki LT-185 Quad (my wife's)

    2 Wheels:
    2003 Honda Shadow ACE 750

    *If life hands you lemons, grab some tequilla and make the best of it!!!!*

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    Good to know because I'm going to tackle my rear brakes soon. I have no cables going to the rear drum and no foot brake. Who knows what may be going on inside that drum.

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    You have to remember that when they wrote the step by step instructions in those manuals, the trikes were new. The parts didnt have 25-30 years to get a good grip on each other.
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    71 QA50
    93 TRX 300 FW

    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    Ya'll are the biggest bunch of whining b!tches I've seen in my entire life.
    You might be strong as an ox, but without a cart you are just a big dumb animal.

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    if you change your brake shoes make sure you remove the shoe actuator from the backing plate, and clean it on your wire wheel. then cover it with never seize, or grease the snot out of it with synthetic brake caliper grease. also ream the hole in the backing plate the actuator sits in, rust and crud builds up in there, and will make the brakes seize as well. lube 'er up good and it won't freeze again.
    Quad? whats that?

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    It seems like quite often when the drum won't come off it is because the shoes are either still contacting it or they sort of get "cocked" in there as you try to pull the drum off. There should be a few holes around the drum where you could fit a punch or something similar to tap on the shoes and keep them parralel to the drum.

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