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    Intermittent Spark...84 Big red 200

    hey guys , cant get my big red going after the winter... fresh gas in it right to the carb but i checked the spark and its not showing a spark every time , if i wait a few seconds it will. could my coil be shot ? , i tried another spark plug and the same thing happens...

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    I got the same thing going on with my 185s. Tried, measured, swapped, & checked everything, but still happens randomly .When it does shut off,- it has little or no spark at times then after a while it starts up like nothing happened. Youre electrical stator setup is different than mine but same crap goin on -sounds like. I'm possibly gonna give those RMSTATORS a shot- I hope theyre really better than those other replacement ones. They claim high performance quality copper windings & cost a only a little bit more than the other ones & got a 1 year warranty.... If you've checked everything- else then go for replacing it.
    Previously Owned:
    1985 ATC 250R (261cc)- 38MM PWK QV/AS, VFORCE3, RPM TIMING ADV., FULL DG EXH, CLARKE WHITE TANK, DOUGLAS RED LABELS, PRM NERF BARS, + ALUM. PARTS
    1983 ATC 185S (186cc)- HI COMP., BASSANI HEADER, REAR DISC BRAKE CONV., '86 200X HUBS, ALUM. RIMS, DIRT DEVILS
    1982 ATC 185S (224cc)- PK WELD-ON KIT, PK CLAMPS, PK EXHAUST, SL90 SHOCKS, OIL COOLER, PCCC RIMS
    1981 ATC 185S
    1984 ATC 250R
    1981 ATC 250R
    1983 ATC 110
    1969 HONDA MINI TRAIL 50


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    Go to the manuals and troubleshoot. But both SOUND like CDI box. They're fairly popular machines,if you know anyone with a good running one,switch boxes.

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    I dont think its the CDI box becuz i was with 3wheelrider when it happened to him, thank god we had a new spark plug thats the only way we got the bike to start, which is weird that it took the plug riding thru a dry trail.
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    do a quick check on the plug to the cdi box, just a thought but if there is no dielectric grease in there and you have high humidity , it can cause funny things to happen

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    I just fixed a spark issue on an 84 200S today, take the cover labeled CDI off the top left of the engine, remove the two phillip head screws that you can see hold the pulse generator plate(round metal plate, magnetic) orr, and make sure the bolt is in the end of the generator shaft, if it's not, or loose, or anything, just try and pull that magnet out with you hands, if it's will slide out ANY, the small pin holding it in could have came out(very, very easy if the shaft moves), that causes the shaft not to align with the magnets correctly, and cause either no spark, or a bit of spark every now and then.


    It sounds complicated, but it's a very simple process, you'll need a ratchet with an 8mm socket, a philips head screwdriver, and if the bolt is loose, a 10mm socket.


    I tried EVERYTHING with that darn S, and I just thought about that, looked, and bingo was it's name-o.
    This is my trike. There are many like it but this one is mine. My trike is my best friend, and it is my life. I must master it as I must master myself. My trike without me is useless. Without my trike, I am useless. I must ride my trike true. My trike and I know that what counts is not the amount of miles we ride, but the time we ride together. My trike is human in it's own ways, therefore I will learn it as my brother. I will learn it's weaknesses, it's strengths, it's parts, and it's soul.

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    I forgot about that the red dust in there can give you a hell of a time too make sure to clean and wipe all that out

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    Yeah, PB Blaster in light amounts and some cloth works great on cleaning out the pulse generator and everything.
    This is my trike. There are many like it but this one is mine. My trike is my best friend, and it is my life. I must master it as I must master myself. My trike without me is useless. Without my trike, I am useless. I must ride my trike true. My trike and I know that what counts is not the amount of miles we ride, but the time we ride together. My trike is human in it's own ways, therefore I will learn it as my brother. I will learn it's weaknesses, it's strengths, it's parts, and it's soul.

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    I had a similar issues with my KLT(gave me hell).... It ended up being a bad ground on the coil, or a slighly dead battery, or a bad plug. I fixed all them before i got a good spark lol

    I do have an RMSTATOR CDI on it. It works great.
    I just wanna go fast. If your not first, your last!!
    Reproducing the Tecate CDI. Contact me if you need one. I'm most accessible on FaceBook. You can find me on the 1984-1987 Kawasaki Tecate KXT250 Group.

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