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    85 Tri-Zinger

    1985 Tri-Zinger, just picked this up a couple hours ago for $350. guy said it was mint, but i know everyones idea of mint is differant. condition is basicly about what i figured it would be. so how did i do? anything wrong or missing that you can see? the guy said he had just lost the clip for the safety shut off right before i got there, front fender/number plate needs mounted correctly, gas cap is cracked, right side of plastic next to peg has a small crack, seat has black rub marks from pull start and tank stickers are pretty rough. looks like there should be something next to the oil injection bottle filler under the seat, just don't know what or if there was anything even there. the oil injection does work. starts very easy 1 pull, new tires and rides straight. only real thing i've noticed sofar is it'll get up to (i'm guessing here) about 15 maybe 20 mph then seems to hit a wall and quits pulling and won't go any faster. read on here where people were saying it should do about 30mph. yes, switch is on the run position. any pointers on where to find a gas cap, tank stickers and such? e-bay my only choice? also, the fuel shut off is very hard to turn, got it turned on, but had to use pliers to shut it back off. any ideas on why it's so hard to turn?

    one thing is for sure i've gotten a hell of a kick just riding it in the backyard.

    ok, enoughs enough. on with the pics and short vid.





    cracked plastic and gas cap



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    That's a nice pickup right there. Gratz.
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    Looks very nice.. They are a load of fun as well.. Ebay is probably your best bet for parts. There is a space under the seat for a "tool kit", but I think it's just a plug wrench. I have 4 tri-zingers and none of them have the tool kit. There is a NOS shut off cord and clip on Ebay now. The 4-zinger (yf60) used a lot of the same parts (mechanicals) as well. Ebay has decal kits as well. There is a small washer type thing between the head pipe and the head that is used to slow them down, you might see if it's still there or not. They tend to help gum up the works inside the pipe and silencer. There is usually a clog of goop in there making it run poorly.

    We just picked up a pw50 for my daughter and I'm amazed at the similarities.. I wonder if the 60 cylinder and head will bolt onto the pw50 engine cases.. They have $100 Cylinder, head, piston, rings, and gasket kits for the pw50 on Ebay..
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    1979 ATC110 (Bandito frame and forks, Turbo wheels, disc braked)
    1982 ATC70 (Lifan manual 125)
    1987 LT80 (piped, widened)


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    Very nice man.

    I rode my Zinger more than anything else at Trikefest. I was even riding it at night with no headlight just because I couldn't get enough of it. It made the trip up the hill to the Shoe Tree (for those in the know) about 20 times and didn't need help once. They're great little machines.

    First thing you should do is clean the pipe. I've never had mine off, it probably still has that washer in the head pipe Doug was referring to. They build up with a ton of oil. I still use my injector and it works fine. The first time I climbed the Shoe Tree hill it looked like a forest fire behind me. She got nice and hot lugging up that hill and started cooking off all the oil in the pipe. It caught me by surprise and I though I had an issue for a second, but it only did it that one time. That's when I figured out what it was.

    Jeswinehart has posted pics before of a propane torch blowing into a pipe suspended above it to cook the excess oil out. You could try that. Or just go climb the hill to the Shoe Tree.
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    You can always tell just how peppy they are by the gouges in the grab bar from wheelying it.. lol..

    We need to have a zinger class at Trikefest next year.. lol.. My DG pipe will hopefully give me an edge.. provided I make it next year of course...
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    1986 ATC250R (sectional pipe and Klemm Research silencer)
    1986 ATC250R (Desert Bike, WAX-ON seat, Dual Cibie lights, Steering Stabilizer)
    1979 ATC110 (Bandito frame and forks, Turbo wheels, disc braked)
    1982 ATC70 (Lifan manual 125)
    1987 LT80 (piped, widened)


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    yeah i just gonna post that i remembered, i was reading las'night about there being restriction in the exhaust. just forgot about it till now and then seeing your post confirmed it. did remember reading about the pw50 stuff swapping and something about upgrading? to the elec from a scooter or moped too. thread was called "Tri-Zinger mods" i do believe. not too worried about the saftey shut off yet, not planning on any kids riding this and not having one gives me an excuse too.
    i'm happy with it stock, just want to open it up.

    ok i was thinking a tool bag or something maybe, just didn't know.

    don't want to really go with warming over the motor, it wants to pop a wheelie when i take off already. just looking to fix it up and get it up to speed. it needs a little work. seem to be a good, but fair buy i'm thinking. either way i'm keeping it, so it might take awhile, but i know i need to do something about the pegs. i can only fit half my foot on them, any suggestions?

    thanks for the the tip on cooking the exhaust. till i get the cap replaced, i can pull the exhaust when i do a basic break down to clean and inspect things better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Boy View Post
    did remember reading about the pw50 stuff swapping and something about upgrading? to the elec from a scooter or moped too.

    but i know i need to do something about the pegs. i can only fit half my foot on them, any suggestions?
    Lights on a Zinger? I'd like to look into that mod for sure...

    I ride with my heels on the pegs and my feet pointed outward.
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    One of my parts tri-zingers has motorcycle foldable pegs on it.. lol

    Rides:
    1986 ATC250R (sectional pipe and Klemm Research silencer)
    1986 ATC250R (Desert Bike, WAX-ON seat, Dual Cibie lights, Steering Stabilizer)
    1979 ATC110 (Bandito frame and forks, Turbo wheels, disc braked)
    1982 ATC70 (Lifan manual 125)
    1987 LT80 (piped, widened)


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    the front fender is the same as a pw 50!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afrothunderkat View Post
    the front fender is the same as a pw 50!
    Yeah, ummmmmm, how about no...
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    fabio: no it wasn't for lights but the idea has being stirring in my mind also
    it was for the ignition stuff i think.
    almost forgot, i got about a quart of yamalube 2stroke oil with it too.

    dcreel: what are those pw50 pegs? or something else
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    also, is there anything i should check or look for while it's getting the basic teardown? like lubes, grease and whatever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Boy View Post
    fabio: no it wasn't for lights but the idea has being stirring in my mind also
    dcreel: what are those pw50 pegs? or something else
    They sell a lighting coil for the tri-zinger. I don't know if it works or not.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NOS-Y...item336a495d98

    The pegs are big streetbike pegs you can barely see the drag ball on the peg to let you know when you're about to take a digger.. lol
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    1986 ATC250R (sectional pipe and Klemm Research silencer)
    1986 ATC250R (Desert Bike, WAX-ON seat, Dual Cibie lights, Steering Stabilizer)
    1979 ATC110 (Bandito frame and forks, Turbo wheels, disc braked)
    1982 ATC70 (Lifan manual 125)
    1987 LT80 (piped, widened)


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    RIP Trace.. Godspeed.

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    ok, i was thinking they was 50 pegs and stuck out more because the way they were mounted. i just figured that was just a bolthead for the peg.
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    dang, was starting to tear it down and one of the rubber straps on the bar pad was on so tight it broke when i tried to take it off.

    also, where exactly is this washer/spacer in the exhaust? i took the head pipe off and it was open. nothing like a washer or spacer in there or on the head. so if it is already out then it would be a safe bet the exhaust is just really oiled up then? govenor screw on the throttle is taken off already so it's not that.
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    85 HONDA 125M (undergoing surgery)
    85 YAMAHA YT60 red w/yellow trim (sold, still in the family)

    "What the f*** are you doing Bill? The racetrack is no place for snacks and fancy cakes....
    I'll have a Custard Cream if your asking."

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