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  1. #16
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    Just saw this post : ( !! You had more than enough meat ,,at the Beginning! To weld a washer on the existing studs. Then weld a nut on that washer and old stud, And turn them right out,,leaving your bare tapped head..,The heat alone damn near lets them come out by hand! But they would have came straight out....Usually you don't have that much to work with ,and off tho DC's to be done right! Sorry,,and good luck!

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    Ovalled the hole a smidge...

    What do you mean Heli Coil them
    ??

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    Danielson, do research before pick up drill.

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    Hm, Ok. Going to have it welded fast.. Thanks for letting me know what heli coil it meant..
    Also i dont have a torch or a welder, So no way i could have welded anything to anything.... No heat to Heat it up.. Unless u stuck the engine in the oven....

  5. #20
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    Well, welding ALUMINUM may very well ruin the whole thing, depending on the welder.

    You can't google "helicoil"? or threaded insert.

    It's bad enough to break off a mounting tab for an exhaust or something, but stay the hell away from the engine until you know what your doing; and I mean that respectfully......................

    I get it, your just another broke triker who wants to ride but doesn't have the tools or knowledge; We have many here
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  6. #21
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    Hey thanks for the disrespect ^^. Yea u can say i wasnt born with a silver spoon unlike some..
    Found what i needed,

  7. #22
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    atc007 is right, you had PLENTY of stud to grab onto with some pliers. Even if you didn't have a heat source you probably have some penetrating oil or something to let it soak, then grab it with some vice grips and yank on it.

    I don't think dirtcrasher was being disrespectful, he was just trying to help you before you messed up your engine. I was inexperienced in broken bolt/stud removal and I had to learn the hard way on how to do it by some more experienced guys.

  8. #23
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    I don't mean this with any disrespect. But you should have taken your time and considered all of your options, and done more research rather then jumping into something!
    All i would of done.... Put the exhaust back on, bolt it on enough so there is no leaking when the motor is running... Let the motor IDLE for 30 minutes, unbolt, slide the flange back, got some vice grips, turned her, and she would of came out..

    I guess you learnt your lesson though.

    Now.... send it off to DC so he can do it right.

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    Was thinking of sending it to him, But i am not sure he would want to..

    Anyway i tried liek hell with vise to grab teh stub and turn it out, wasnt going good,
    Also there wasnt enough to Go past my exhaust plate that bolts on, I couldnt get a nut back on it after they snapped, Snapped to far down.
    Only had maybe half an inch to play with. Soaked it with Oil, Wd and nail polish remover for 2 days before tryign anything.. Yea im pretty now. I either need another Cylinder. Or Retap and drill it str8 this time with teh next size up.
    Or send it away and have some1 do it.. Or Heli Coil.. Looking into heli coil but im lost as for what kind to get and how to go about using it.. Google helped watched tens of tuts.. Im stumped. Looks ,like i wont be riding this winter...

  10. #25
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    lol, I was going to get a self tapping Screw... Now that my Holes are drilled it wont work unless i get one bigger then teh hole drilled.. Witch idk if they make them that big..

  11. #26
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    Send it off to do it right. You do not want a self tapping screw in there. What happens if it comes out while riding? Burnt exhaust valve, and possibly water into the top end..

    Taking the easy way out will get you nowhere except out of even more money than it will take to get it fixed properly.
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  12. #27
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    Where should i send it?? Like Give me the address and There it will go...
    Just i called machine shops here, They say they wont do it... No idea who i could send it to..
    Dirtcrasher? Not sure he Will Be able to Do it for me? Also a price or something? Not worried about that much i wanna ride...

  13. #28
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    Pm DC, I'm sure he could get it done for you, I know he has been pretty busy these days though.
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  14. #29
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    Ok thanks i sent him a PM,

    Also as for that Tecate i said was free i still didnt get it. He says its in teh back of his packed shed, and he needs a day off to go get it. Told him ill give him 80 bucks he said ok,

    Im going to soon Part this 250sx out... Worse comes to worse,...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headsup View Post
    Or Heli Coil.. Looking into heli coil but im lost as for what kind to get and how to go about using it.. Google helped watched tens of tuts.. Im stumped. Looks ,like i wont be riding this winter...
    I am not sure if my posting will help you or bury you further into an already bad situation. And I have no idea what tens of tuts is..Is that like toys for Ta-ta's? lol

    You can't do any real repair work with that engine sitting crooked in the frame.
    If you want to attempt what I am about to show you, then have at it and go get some good cobalt drill bits and set that engine on a nice level work area and follow these instructions. I am not saying you will be succesful, as drilling a simple hole in a straight fashion is very hard without a drill press, but it is the best help I can offer you.
    Try at your own risk.

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