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  1. #481
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    Thumbs up Hello Everyone!

    I'm new here and just wanted to say thanks for allowing me to join. I'm also new to this forum posting and I'll try to get better at it. I have a 1986 ATC 250ES with a newly rebuilt engine, brakes, front and rear and bearings all around. I have a pickle and can't seem to find help anywhere so I've turned to using Google and found this forum. My pickle you ask????....... my drive shaft! It was broken when I got it and bought new from Ebay but it was too short and the end that goes into the final drive is way too big.
    I can put a quarter in that end and it will not fit into the opening. The new one is the size of a fifty cent piece easy. I'm thinking a change was made to my rear end?? Any suggestions?
    Thanks,
    Ron
    Last edited by HardAche; 10-27-2015 at 12:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardAche View Post
    I'm new here and just wanted to say thanks for allowing me to join. I'm also new to this forum posting and I'll try to get better at it. I have a 1986 ATC 250ES with a newly rebuilt engine, brakes, front and rear and bearings all around. I have a pickle and can't seem to find help anywhere so I've turned to using Google and found this forum. My pickle you ask????....... my drive shaft! It was broken when I got it and bought new from Ebay but it was too short and the end that goes into the final drive is way too big.
    I can put a quarter in that end and it will not fit into the opening. The new one is the size of a fifty cent piece easy. I'm think a change was made to my rear end?? Any suggestions?
    Thanks,
    Ron
    First I'll say welcome to 3ww! Second, it would be best to create a new thread to get more people to see your issue.

    However... I deal with parts a bit and have never seen that large of a size difference in the drive shaft. 85-87 250es all had the same size pinion join (part the drive shaft goes on in the rear end), and a TON of other machines from the same erra has the same part number including the early shaft drive quads and 250sx. Going purely on memory, I think the normal rear end side of the drive shaft is pretty large, not sure about a fifty cent piece fitting, but a quarter probably would or be close.

    If you could upload some photos of your rear end, broken drive shaft, and the new drive shaft, I'm sure someone will be able to spot what happened.

    This is what the OEM drive shaft should look like -> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-ATC-25...xWLqPP&vxp=mtr
    Maybe the seller listed the part you bought incorrectly? The drive shaft is no longer made, so unless you bought a NOS (new old stock) one which should have went for insane money ($200-300+), you either got the wrong model or a used one from something.

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    Thank you sir. I've looked at all of the one's on Ebay and they all are basically the same as the one I purchased. I've come to the conclusion my rear end has been "rigged". Ok so I've added the pictures for the drive shaft here and I have made an album of the differences in hopes of getting some feed back. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I had one back in high school and thought this would be cool to ride with my son....he just keeps laughing as he rides by the shop on his Can-Am 250DS. Thanks again.Click image for larger version. 

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    Pretty interesting, I don't know any other machines that interchange, but I know honda stuck with the same style diff for years and years. Does the swing arm look correct to ebay listings? 86 is different from 85 but both used the same drive shaft. If the swing arm looks correct then just the diff was swapped out. I don't think there are any numbers on them, but good photos of it might help id what it is.

    I know some people have used the trx250 rear in the 250es, but I'm pretty sure the diffs are the same more or less. The swing arm is much different though, it would fit on a 250sx frame for a +3 inch in length.

    It kind of looks like this one, but the spline count is off. http://www.ebay.com/itm/03-Honda-TRX...dWJ6aO&vxp=mtr

    Is it welded together at the knuckle?

    The easiest fix I can think of is to get a 250es or 250sx rear end and use the 250es drive shaft, but the rear ends are not cheap. I'd like to help ID the diff you have, since it might open up a new possible rear end for the big reds which is why they cost quite a lot, they get torn up and all that is left is other ones used from the 80s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmeamidget View Post
    Also need full plastics for 86 trx70. I found on Amazon for around 400 bucks...anyone know of a better deal? Seems pricey for small plastics.
    I,seen Mr twisted had plastic for a 70 and a 90 brand new back ones for around 190 I think on ebay they,had all types of color

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    On the hunt for an 86 tecate near Chicago to add to my collection. Anybody know of any for sale?

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    I am looking to purchase a decompression cable for an 85 ATC 200s. Any help would be welcome. Anybody know where to buy one of these? Thanks.

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    Ok ty ill be looking for parts and see if anyone is in alabama

  9. #489
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    At the 3 last posters, it would be best to make a new thread about the things you're trying to buy, it will be read much more there than here.

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    its the RULES don't like them there is OTHER Forums out there BUT NOWHERE has the QUALITY of USERS and INFO this site offers, So for i will wait the 2 months and i already have more then 10 posts so im good................was posted as and answer to an above issue, my bad....opppps
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    Definitely answered a few questions haha much appreciated

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    Answered many questions. I've been a member for a long time, but I didn't know about the 10 post requirement for full access.

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    First post here but it's far from the first time I've posted on forum ... I understand some people are illiterate and never learned punctuation... Spammers are out there too. There are also folks who legitimately need a quick solution to a problem. I've been there before. I'm too old to get in a hurry about bs nowadays.

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    I'm also forgetful... I was gonna answer a question for somebody and then was informed 10/2 rule... I can't remember who, what, or where now...

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    Ive been a member here for a long time. My previous user name was BIG_RED-ICULOUS. I had to change my email when I got married and I forgot my last password. Tried sending a message to admin but no success, so i had to rergister. Would any of the moderators help me out here please??

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