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    200 es spark problem

    I have searched and havent found a similar problem. I have service manual for my atc and checked ignition with ohm meter and all with in specs. I have a brand new cdi unit. First pull i get maybe 1 or 2 sparks from plug. I can pull it over another 6 or 7 times and get nothing. If i keep pulling it will start sparking again like it should, sparking several times on each pull. Anybody have this kind of problem before. I am thinking there is something wrong with an induction coil somewhere maybe pulse coil. Any suggestion would be appreciated. I dont want to spend too much on this atc shes in pretty bad shape if i cant get her going cheap she will go back into the storage shed and forgotten about. Thanks

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    try disconnecting the kill switch it may be shorting also unbolt your igniton coil clean of its ground and put it back on snip a little bit off of each end of the plug wires and see what hapens it sounds to me like its grounding out or not grounded enough gl.

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    I will give that try. The kill switch was taken out of the housing on handle bar. This machine has sat outside unused for 2+ years. I got it, started her up ran for about 15 seconds and quit. Then it went into my barn where it has sat for the last 2-3 years. I have checked all the wires from the key switch for continuity and they are all good.
    I love 3 wheelers. If I can get this one going my next project is going to be a 1982 200 S that I had since new, if i can get my old man to hand it over. I think then it was around $1800
    Thanks

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    let me know if you get stuck

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    Pull the CDI cover off ( on head at the end of the cam ) and check the advancer to see if it spins by hand. I have seen the advancers go bad and cause sporatic spark like your having.
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    also replace your plug my neboir had one guy he got it from couldnt get it to spark the plug looked brand new but it wasnt any good put a dif plug in and it fired right up

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    I have checked the pulse generator. It seems to be working properly. Doesnt spin by hand. Checked gap and ohmed at 27. I have read there should be a 0.5v pluse from the pulse generator on the blue/yellow wire but I am not getting that. I have checked the generator and it ohms at around 250 and puts out about 30 volts. I have started going through wire diagram checking all the wires.

    UPDATE.
    I pulled the old dead/busted battery out and put in the one from my kids Chinese quad. My neutral light comes on and I have spark. The neutral light wouldnt even blink before when i was pulling it over. I have tested the regulator/rectifier with my standard multimeter and i get no reading going by the test procedure in the manual. Do i need the special meters they mentino in the manual or should i get some kind of reading.
    Last edited by Bean007; 12-19-2011 at 05:17 PM.

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