Need help with jets

[stroberts22]

Mine pushes the pin in when I hold it upside down also. I have to hold the carb sideways to set the float. The high float would make it rich. Was it high enough to leak out the overflow?

[SteveCZ28]

No it wasn't coming out of the overflow. and the float was actually low

[stroberts22]

You didn't crank it and wake the neighbors. If you do end up going down on your pilot jet I would go up on the main. I was working on getting my pilot jet right but it seemed like it affected the main also. I think they work together to get the balance right.

[SteveCZ28]

no shes down for the night. so are you guys reccomending i go leaner, or down in size on my pilot jet then??

[SteveCZ28]

can someone get me a link specifically for the pilot jets?? im having troubles finding them. i find pilot jets for the keihins, but for 4 strokes. and the ones for the 2 stroke pe series is only for up to a 26mm... which appears to be a different size. as the pilot jet in my carb is 28mm long and 5.5 thick

* edit, found a website that has the 22 series pilot jet for the pe 34mm. i ordered the 2 next sizes down. so a 50 and 48 for the pilot. so we will see where that gets me, hopefully so it will idle. then work on the main, of which i just ordered a 5 pack variety of mains at the same site for the pilot's.

[whyzee]

Did you buy the R like this ,or did you do the rebuild. How was it running before all of this ?

[Dirtcrasher]

The float lays down by gravity, it doesn't need spring pressure to hold it outright when the carb is held upside down.

Someone please post the chart for Steve.

The main jet effects all circuits, a pilot jet has no effect on the main jet or high throttle whatsoever...... Just starting and right off throttle.

[SteveCZ28]

Did you buy the R like this ,or did you do the rebuild. How was it running before all of this ?

long story short, i bought the r like this. the motor that was in it, would run, but never hit ful powerband either. it was having a ton of problems. so i partially toer it down to inspect crank seals, and thats when i found i could move the crank in and out maybe 1/4 inch or a tad more, and found chunks of metal in the crank bearings, so it was on its way to letting go.

so thats when i found this fresh rebuilt engine from a member on here. had receipts showing it was a fresh rebuld, and i also partially tore this motor down to inspect the rebuild and it is legit, with 0 time on it untill i installed it, heat cycled it, and rode it 1 time

[SteveCZ28]

The float lays down by gravity, it doesn't need spring pressure to hold it outright when the carb is held upside down.

Someone please post the chart for Steve.

The main jet effects all circuits, a pilot jet has no effect on the main jet or high throttle whatsoever...... Just starting and right off throttle.

but wont the pilot jet affect how it runs at idle???

[Dirtcrasher]

but wont the pilot jet affect how it runs at idle???

"Just starting and right off throttle" - yes, including idle.

Read some of this: http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...Jetting-Theory

A bad idle isn't gonna seize my engine at the speed a lean main would.....

I can't even number the amount of threads stating "fresh rebuild, seized motor, what did I do wrong?" and its normally too close of a tolerance or a lean main jet.

[SteveCZ28]

im not even going to attempt to jet it until i get my new airbox here, and on the bike....i would just feel more comfortable doing it this way

heres a video of it running a lil while back. except now it wont idle on its own...but it does the same thick smoke when you rev it, and it doesnt seem to clear out, which im guessing is my fuel mixture right now

[whyzee]

Ugh ....I feel your frustration. Can't understand with the jetting you are running now why you are soooo rich.. members on here have had 85 carbs just go completely bad on them. I have never had that happen to me and I have literally been through 20+ R's
However, seeing that the bike was acting this way before the motor swap it very well could all be in the Carb..
If you have eliminated the following :
Clogged air cleaner
Clogged fuel strainer or screen
Clogged breather tube and finally a clogged muffler (which I doubt seeing that yours is brand new. )
Can you do a compression test for me. This is definitely the next step in fixing your problem

[SteveCZ28]

Clean airfilter. Clean fuel strainer and is getting uninterrupted fuel flow. It very well could be the carb because it did the same thing before on the old motor. Ill try my other carb tomorrow. Air breather is clean. Just checked compression and it came back right at 185psi.

[whyzee]

Awesome compression. Save your money and time on jetting and just pick up a decent used Carb .
Only other thing it could be is the timing is off or a weak stator, but you eliminated this variable by replacing the entire engine correct?
If so, it is definitely your Carb.

[SteveCZ28]

well ill throw my other carb on it tomorrow...i had to rob the main jet holder out of it to put in mine when i snapped mine a while ago, so ill put the spare carb together and see if it helps at all...idk about timing. new motor came with its own stator, and flywheel. everything is clean, dry and free from condensation in there also...