now the enviromenalist are trying to kill me they did get my 185

[bcredneck]

a couple of weeks ago i spent a hour moving rocks off my favorite high speed trail today i had the 185 toped out (it has a 200x motor and smaller rear sprocket) there was fresh snow on the ground
so i didnt see the perfect diagnole line of huge rocks aross the trail i nailed it hard tike did at least 3 flips blew the font tire off its bead cracked the front fender and caused a masive oil leak that i havent found yet and dont realy want to see now after spending 2 hours geting 1km home the next @$$ho!e i see placing rocks on the trail is getting run over considering i could have been killed if i had no helmet

[Dirtcrasher]

Sorry, but it mustn't be your land!

Glad your OK...

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Well, if it's a public trial then you are definitely in the right and might want to notify the police about the trail booby trap.

But if it was private land you do not have permission to ride, it's on you and you have zero recourse.....

[bcredneck]

it is public land the trail follows a power line and is veary well used by 4x4 sleds and atvs but about 200 feet north of the trail is a proteced area there are signs that mark it every 50 feet i have never crossed the sings however the dumb hikers think they own every thing ive been told to leave before but since then ive phoned the city and made shure that i have the right to be there and they said as long as i dont pass the signs im ok they also said they get calls from pissed hikers all the time that want the rest of the area closed down

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Well, in that case it might be a good idea to file a report with the police documenting the incident and notify the city of the vandalism/booby traps. Being that it's a public trail and ATV's, sleds and whatnot have legitimate permission to use it, then the guilty parties can be prosecuted if caught. It is no different that placing a booby trap on a public highway. And being that life, limb and property is put at risk, I'm sure the charges could be fairly severe in nature, like reckless endangerment or worse.. Might be a good idea to ask the city for permission to put up game cameras too. Just be careful and don't cross the line yourself in your efforts to put a stop to the BS. Make sure you stay on the right side of the law.. The whole situation could degrade and the city could end up closing the trail to ALL users to avoid hassles and law suits.. Good luck and be careful!

[gomer202]

it is public land the trail follows a power line and is veary well used by 4x4 sleds and atvs but about 200 feet north of the trail is a proteced area there are signs that mark it every 50 feet i have never crossed the sings however the dumb hikers think they own every thing ive been told to leave before but since then ive phoned the city and made shure that i have the right to be there and they said as long as i dont pass the signs im ok they also said they get calls from pissed hikers all the time that want the rest of the area closed down

Its all the Bc Tree huggers i get the same kind of disrespect out on trails im aloud to ride. but what i dont get is that they hate you riding when they are not in need of help but if they needed help and you were out there at that time and we able to help them and did they would absolutely love you and thank you for being out at that time. Its makes no sense to me.... you cant win. Just have to be respectful and hope for the best!

[Scratt]

Was it on the crown land? Sometimes the ranchers have there range cows out so they could set a trap so you won't be spooking the cows. My girlfriend used to live near Kamloops and she knows people who came across barb wire traps across trails and they ended up flipping the horse. But I can't see there being cows out there right now....

[Scratt]

Or could be even hunters

[RIDE-RED 250r]

It shouldn't matter. If it's public property, and the area is open to ATV's, NOBODY but the city has the right to fence it off, booby trap it, or anything else like that.....

[bcredneck]

Was it on the crown land? Sometimes the ranchers have there range cows out so they could set a trap so you won't be spooking the cows. My girlfriend used to live near Kamloops and she knows people who came across barb wire traps across trails and they ended up flipping the horse. But I can't see there being cows out there right now....

no one has cows there i was about 1/2 km from the first cattlegard and after that you have no choice but to slow down

[bcredneck]

Well, if it's a public trial then you are definitely in the right and might want to notify the police about the trail booby trap.

But if it was private land you do not have permission to ride, it's on you and you have zero recourse.....

ha with the cops here you have good luck getting them to your house after a weekend BNE let alone some guy moving rocks but there on your @$$ if you dont signal at a light

[DasUberKraut]

BC man... Ya gotta wear a brain bucket. We don't want to miss out on any crazy builds cause you offed yourself on a rock.

Oh yeah, glad you're alive buddy.

[dougspcs]

This is Canada, home of the free..just follow the many rules.

Just be cause it's public land doesn't mean it's open to motorized vehicles!! Chances are if you are inside any town boundaries there are bylaws prohibiting the operation of your machines. This is up to you to know..

If the hikers and tree-huggers are blocking trails you think you have the right to be on..chances are you are wrong. If not, file a complaint..

Check at your town-hall about the areas you can and cannot ride in..

You pushing your way thru and running where-ever you want is just gonna get the hikers up in arms and get them stomping up to the steps of town-hall. Next you know there will be cops patrolling looking for you, signs posted, trail blockades and all kinds of havok.

Learn the rules and follow them, get along with the people in your community or you and everyone who likes this sport will find it harder and harder to find places to ride.

In my region unless you own a decent size plot of private land you have to trailer and drive a long way to find places to ride..it didn't have to be this way if the few disrepectful riders didn't just go a bit too far!!

Glad you didn't get hurt..sorry about your machine.

[Scootertrash]

According to him he has talked to the city:

ive phoned the city and made shure that i have the right to be there and they said as long as i dont pass the signs im ok they also said they get calls from pissed hikers all the time that want the rest of the area closed down

Just because hikers think they are entitled to have trails to themselves doesn't mean it is so. Maybe the hikers should be the ones contacting the city/township and making sure THEY are following the rules. It's a 2 way street.

In the event that the hikers are correct, then they should be contacting the authorities, not setting booby traps.

BOTH sides need to respect the others right to use the trails. ATVers need to slow down when they pass hikers and hikers need to step to the side and let wheelers pass safely.

[dougspcs]

According to him he has talked to the city:



Just because hikers think they are entitled to have trails to themselves doesn't mean it is so. Maybe the hikers should be the ones contacting the city/township and making sure THEY are following the rules. It's a 2 way street.

In the event that the hikers are correct, then they should be contacting the authorities, not setting booby traps.

BOTH sides need to respect the others right to use the trails. ATVers need to slow down when they pass hikers and hikers need to step to the side and let wheelers pass safely.

Agreed, more or less what I was trying to say.

However, many times in the past motorized vehicle riders ASSUME their rights without know for sure. 'Well I've been riding this trail for years' becomes the defence.

If he is right then, correct he should be contacting the authorities. Whoever is creating an unsafe trail in shared space is commiting a criminal offence..

A little homework is required..maybe even a deercam setup. Remove the barrier, setup a hidden cam and see who rebuilds it..

Proof is what is needed is you want the cops to enforce.