Thoughts on running E85, anyone done it?
So my cousin has a 400ex that he built years ago, it was a 426, 10.5 to 1 compression, Hot Cam stage 1, Curtis Sparks full system, 2004 CRF450 carb (41mm flat slide) and remved air box lid. It ran very well.
Well the timing chain had been making some noise and finally broke! No other damage but he obviously had to take it apart. He had an 11.5 to 1 440cc piston and cylinder laying around so he installed those. He ran that combo once before but it would spark knock on 93 octane and continually blow head gaskets. So this time he converted to E85 which he says runs cooler and is a minimum of 105 octane plus its about 30 cents per gallon cheaper than 87 octane. He stuck with the Hot Cam stage 1 which he said is not recommeded for anything larger than 426cc (he's now at 440) because the running compression will be too high. Its working with the E85 though.
He did a lot of research on it and said he could not find anyone else on the internet who had done it. He was trying to find a jetting baseline but had to start from sratch. He said people were asking about it but everyone advised against it based on the corrosion factor. He thinks its methanol thats really corrosive and ethanol is but to a lesser extent that he does't think it will be a problem. He's got a bunch of books etc on E85 so he's pretty knowledgable on the fuel itself.
So he got it together yesterday and rode it over to my house. As soon as he pulled up I could smell the alcohol, it smells totally different thats for sure.
He said E85 requires 40% more fuel. He said he could not find jets big enough. So he took a drill bit set that measures in thousanths of an inch, found which one fit in the stock jets then added 40% and drilled (a little more involved than that). He also soldered shut the bleeder jet for the accelerator pump, so all the fuel from the accelerator pump is going into the engine. He said the jetting took him nearly all day. I rode it and it ran perfect. And the power was amazing, I think it would be a real good match against my 85 250R which has compression, pipe and other bolt ons. I'd say the win will go to whoever gets out of the hole first. It's really impressive. He might even just beat me all around, I actually wouldn't know what to expect. He's even running a 16 tooth front sprocket which is one bigger than stock, it flys top end.
Since he had no other conversions to base this off of he wasn't sure what to expect so he just put it together with the parts he had laying around. If all goes well, and so far it is, he's going to switch to a 13 to 1 piston. He's also got a Web cam stage 2 laying around that he will probably switch to for that piston.
Anyone else heard of anything like this? From what he could find it sounds like he's the pioneer! lol.
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