Ethanol the enemy

[Angore]

Found this video on another forum & thought it might interest some of you who are concerned about phase-separation occurring in today's oxygenated fuels .
I've used Seafoam for years , but after seeing the side-by-side comparison ( in glass containers ) I'll be switching teams .
Have a look : http://www.veoh.com/watch/v27896358P59eQY2h

[blue27]

wow, interesting

[DasUberKraut]

Thank you Angore! This was educational.

I will no longer use Sea Foam in my fuel.

[captainweezy]

Very good video, Thanks for posting.

[Angore]

Your welcome ! I didn't say not to use Seafoam , I believe it's still a great "system-cleaner" it just doesn't prevent phase separation like the other one .
I'm going to be using a little of each

[DasUberKraut]

I always use Sea Foam in the brake booster of my vehicles once a year. And also in the crank case before oil changes. I've actually been using Lucas Oil fuel system cleaner.

[ceaserthethird]

Very important for the 2 stroke fans, Thank you for sharing.

[sp8twn]

Thank you for sharing.

[RubberSalt]

I'm Pro e85 ethanol, all the way. Currently.

I'm writing this as i watch this video.

Ethanol makes more power than gasoline, around 18%. This is true for engine built for e85, not for premium and ethyl. At its peak power, it does release 4.4% more heat. But that can be toned down to equal that of gasoline. e85 does not hurt anything on vehicles these days.

------------ AFTER WATCHING ----------

Neat!! I have a new chemical at my disposal I like lol

I <3 my high performance e85, 105 octane ethanol:-D
Never had an issue with water separation with it. But I also don't let it sit for ever. I buy it and use it lol.

[midsouthtrikes]

Thanks for sharing for sure!

[kb0nly]

I have been using Stabil for about 20 years now... Never have i had a problem with stale or separated fuel using it. I just started my walk behind snowblower yesterday, been sitting since last year with Stabil treated fuel, fired right up... Ran for fifteen minutes, checked over everything and then added some fresh fuel to the tank to top it off... Good to go.

[aldochina]

cool video! I will give it a try, i have used alot of others, but never heard of that! I usually open the drain screw on the float bowl for 8- 10 seconds! works every time!! great for the cans, saws, generator etc.

[falloutboy]

I'm glad I can get non-eth fuel.

[kb0nly]

I'm glad I can get non-eth fuel.

Non ethanol fuel isn't that big of a deal.. Just like anything you have to know how to deal with it. There is a lot of good products out there to take care of it, and no reason to be totally concerned over it. If your really really paranoid you can put a water trap on your fuel line or get a fuel dryer setup to dry down the fuel before putting it in the tank. Pretty interesting setup i have seen some of the pro lawn care guys using, especially the tree service guys around here. It's a 5 gal gas jug with an element in it that absorbs the water in the fuel, not sure if its like a dessicant type product or what it is, haven't researched them.

I just toss in some Stabil every time i fill up my jugs which i fill all the machines off here, trikes, saws, generator, mower, snowblower, etc etc.. They make three different types now, the standard red for treatment and storage, green for marine use, and yellow/gold which is just for water bonding in ethanol blended fuels. I have poured the ethanol treatment in just about everything as a precaution when its really humid in the summer, helps with condensation buildup in the tank.

[kb0nly]

I just watched that video again.....

I would like to argue one point that he made.

"It sucks from the bottom of the tank first"

Ok thats somewhat true... But none of them take from the dead bottom of the tank, they have a filter or fuel inlet, or both, that goes up into the tank from the petcock. Sure if you run on the reserve setting on say your Honda ATC you can pull from the bottom, but even then you won't pull from the dead bottom but slightly above it, thats why the bottom of the tanks get rusted out from the water sitting in the bottom of them. I drain the tank down every spring and every fall, the remove the petcock, drain whats left in it out, use a rag and a air nozzle to fit the nozzle to the filler cap and blow air through the tank to force any water or gunk out and then flush with a bit of fresh fuel and re-assemble and refill. Why? Just cause thats how i was taught to take care of equipment with metal tanks.

He wouldn't say the names of the products.... But the first one he poured in, the right end of the row, isn't Stabil and i am not sure what it is with certainty but i know Stabil products very well and that ain't it. The second is the one hes touting... And the third one, the left end, is Seafoam for sure, unmistakeable because of the container top and lid, who hasn't used Seafoam that wouldn't recognize it...

I haven't ever heard of anyone using Seafoam to treat fuel specifically, it shines for what it was made for, a fuel system CLEANER, yeah sure it treats the fuel, but only to the extent that its mixed in so its carried through the fuel system to clean it. The company doesn't claim its a water killing product. So the guy in the video isn't really comparing apples to apples but its just another nit pick of mine.

Its a neat looking product, i would definitely give it a shot if it was sold locally, but i haven't seen any source of this product around here so i will continue using Stabil. Last i checked there wasn't any visible water or separation in my 2-cycle jugs or my saws.