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Thread: The power of "The Works" vs rust

  1. #16
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    If you threw some aluminum in that gas tank... I would run.. run very far away lol.. Don't ever do that hahaha.. i use pop bottles.

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    LOL... Getting back to the actual topic... Do you line your tank after you are done? I just did a whole Kreem treatment on my tank but was curious if lining it is even necessary if you keep gas in it?

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    Great method!

  4. #19
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    To be honest I dont line it at all lol. once I put gas in it, it doesn't rust. I have SO MUCH condensation in my garage that when my tank was empty there was some in it(condensation) and it make like one tiny little rust spot.. smaller than a dime lol. After that it never saw another piece of rust again.

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    I have been using The Works for YEARS to do stuff like this. I was shown how to do it by another guy something like ten years ago at least. I was amazed and have used it ever since.

    What i do though is to remove the petcock and put a cork into the hole, just a plain old cork, you can find them in the crafting isles at most big stores like Wal-Mart. Another thing that works good is a rubber stopper but The Works will eat it up and it will leak, so its a one time use. The plain old natural Cork's work best and they don't get eaten up. Then sit the tank over a bucket and fill it up full, depending on tank size it takes more than just one obviously. Let it cook with the gas cap off for a while, keep checking it, as Cody mentioned it will turn from Blue to Green and kind of a Brownish/Green, at that point the Acid is just about outlived its life. If you have a lot of rust around the fill hole get some plastic wrap or a garbage bag and put it over the hole and then wrap a couple good rubber bands around the plastic and the lip of the fill hole to seal it up, then flip it upside down on the pail so any leaking will just go into the bucket, let it sit again for a while, then flip it back over and pull the cork and let it drain into the bucket, rinse it good and your done. If there is still some rust put the cork back in, open up the top and pour the bucket back in and let it soak some more.

    I rinse with lots of water, then i spray down the inside with some WD-40 and slosh it around and finally i fill with gas. No coating whatsoever.
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    I tryed the creem on a bike tank and was disapointed ...

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    Wow Kb0nly.. great explanation! I will definitely try EVERYthing you said to do with that gas tank hahaha. I couldn't think of how to get that lip where you pour gas into. The cork is a great idea as well. Thanks!

    Shadam.. I've never tried creem before.. what is it? A liner or something?

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    hydrochloric acid aka muriatic acid works great to remove rust and Etch steel which is the active ingredient in toilet bowl cleaner but how many dollar store bottles does it take to "fill" a tank as said above? why not spend 8 bucks on a gallon of the acid? Even cut at 15:1-20:1 it will work well. For the impatient like myself 10:1 works very fast. Thats 11 gallons for 8 bucks. The same result but a bit more cost effective.

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    it would take a lot of bottles.. then again i wouldn't fill the tank full with this stuff lol.. very powerful and would probably eat your tank alive. I'd suggest 1 bottle and keep flipping the tank so it gets all the area's.

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    Wow. Wish I would of known this sooner. I've been in the pool business my whole life and have CASES of muriatic acid laying around.

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    Usually when i have to resort to The Works its bad... And my local Dollar Tree store has them for like $1 a bottle, so i fill the tank up to get quicker results. I forget how many bottles it took to do the last one, 5-6 bottles. I don't mean filled to the brim though, i mean like filled up to the point that its over the hump in the middle of the tank so that you get that area good with it sitting on the bottom, then flip, so its more like 1/2-3/4 full, sorry i should have explained that part better.

    It works though, thats all there is to it. I have tried the other methods, apple cider vinegar works ok but you have to be damn patient. This stuff you can go from rusty to riding in an afternoon.
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    Will the works take out old creem????
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    No I don't think so. Kreem says to use part B of there kit to remove it but I can not remember the name of that chemical. You can get it at Home Depot though. Ill look at the directions in the morning and let you know the name of it. I just did the kreem liner on my tank. Now I wish I would have just acid washed it and filled her up with gas. Oh well.

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    MEK or muriatic acid will remove the old Kreem lining. Just remember to remove your petcock and plug the hole or else you will be buying a new one. I just did this to my SX tank, I used muriatic acid, let it sit for about an hour, drain, rinse out with A LOT of water/baking soda solution to neutralize the acid, let it sit over the heat register in the house, re-lined with Redkote and called it done. Worked like a charm. This was my first time re sealing a tank and the Redkote makes it super easy.
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    Kbonly that's what I did the first time. Filled right over that little hump and just tipped it over. What is kreem? Like that Redkote? just a liner

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