kawasaki factory r and d engineer and rider

[85drag250r]

hello mpargielo.

i will gladly answer your question. i explained in a few earlier post why i don't want to reveal my name. the real question should be that since i can guarantee you that no one will know it except for those it will serve you no purpose anyway.

i did not know that about his star but my point is clear he could have them take it down if he wanted but he doesn't he likes the attention. and yes i mentioned in my post that he was fast. he certainly deserves the recognition if he wants it!

the partial names are to protect them from insane people calliing kawi or otherwise trying to find them and bother them. mickey can ask preston who they were, just him knowing is enough.

Just my opinion, but you seem to be the one with the "hostile" replies when members of this board ask simple questions.

[barnett468]

Just my opinion, but you seem to be the one with the "hostile" replies when members of this board ask simple questions.

well i told mickey i'd get at least 10 hate mails. i don't like to repeat myself. all i ask is that people read ALL my replies before jumping to any conclusions and making any critical comments . i suggest you do the same. friendly questions get extremely friendly answers unreasonable antagonistic ones may or may not. i suppose that you are another one that thinks people have no right to privacy and you continue to try and force your will on them. nice, good lesson to teach the kids! i never initiate hostilities and never reply with hostility. i see no point in it. i just say it like it is, interpret it how you will. guess i'm just too old and impatient to play peoples games.

should i add you to my friends list?

[85drag250r]

well i told mickey i'd get at least 10 hate mails. i don't like to repeat myself. all i ask is that people read ALL my replies before jumping to any conclusions and making any critical comments . i suggest you do the same. friendly questions get extremely friendly answers unreasonable antagonistic ones may or may not. i suppose that you are another one that thinks people have no right to privacy and you continue to try and force your will on them. nice, good lesson to teach the kids! i never initiate hostilities and never reply with hostility. i see no point in it. i just say it like it is, interpret it how you will. guess i'm just too old and impatient to play peoples games.

should i add you to my friends list?

I was not rude to you on my last 2 posts, I made a simple observation from my point of view on how you are coming across on this board.

The only thing I have seen so far is that you are really good at playing the victim, trying to make it look like every one is picking on you.

Have a nice day

[barnett468]

I was not rude to you on my last 2 posts, I made a simple observation from my point of view on how you are coming across on this board.

The only thing I have seen so far is that you are really good at playing the victim, trying to make it look like every one is picking on you.

Have a nice day

i thank you for your perceptive observations Dr Freud. anyone that reads all the posts and understands their content can clearly see that there are many people that seem serious about asking fun questions unlike some others, therefore since virtually 95% of the posters have real questions i obviously couldn't possibly think that EVERYONE is picking on me and since i don't know how to "play the victim" that's obviously not possible either. thank you i feel much better now Dr, same time next week?

thanks, have a nice day yourself!

[fabiodriven]

from fabiodriven - ""

wow nice fabiodriven, an incendiary question and you were even able to include the suggestion of a profanity in it [or did you just forget how to spell the rest of the word? did you think of that all by yourself or did you plagiarize it from the lyrics of the who song titled "who are you" off their who's next album? lol

just kidding

Thank you for the reply.

I still don't know who you are but in all honesty it's not all that important to me. If you said your name I'm sure I wouldn't recognize it anyways as I'm not as well versed as some of these gentlemen in trike racing history. I just wanted to know if you were who you said you were. I may end up being the fool here, it's too early to tell, but after some of your most recent posting I'm thinking you may be the real deal.

I'll probably catch some flak here for saying this, but I'm used to that. I'm not here to win any popularity contests. I've been watching this thread from the beginning and my personal opinion is that you've not had the greeting you deserve. I feel as though you've been prodded and ganged up on wrongfully. I don't feel this is any way to welcome the man who potentially could have invented the Tecate. So from myself and on behalf of our New England riding group, I would like to welcome you to this community. I was a Tecate man for many years and thoroughly enjoyed whipping up on almost every Yamaha and Honda to try and beat me. The first generation of Tecates was always my cup of tea and is an absolute work of genius in my opinion. I am still part owner of one that my friend and I are converting to a 500 with an 86 KX500 engine.

I hope you are who you say you are and I hope you continue to add to our site.

[M.Pargiello]

Its not like anything you may have done for Kawasaki in the 80's is anything close to top secret anymore. The technology from that time period has been surpassed quite a few times. I just don't see the reason for secrecy when everyone else from that era has no problem telling who they are. No one is going to stalk the other workers from 1980's era kawasaki. Most have never been heard of, and I'm sure that no one here is the "1980 mechanic stalker type". And if you write anything close to how you type, then I really have a hard time believing you ever wrote any type of report for Kawasaki. Just my point of view.

That being said, I agree with everything fabio has posted. You do deserve a better welcome than you have received. I would also like to personally thank you for the Tecate if everything you say is true!

[Mickey Dunlap]

Like I said I'm not going to play this game. I didn't even read all the posts because it's just a bunch of ramblings to me. I spent all the time I care to yesterday calling Donnie,and if someone you teamed up with didn't remember you,it's not worth my time going any further. Have a nice day.

[barnett468]

Thank you for the reply.

I still don't know who you are but in all honesty it's not all that important to me. If you said your name I'm sure I wouldn't recognize it anyways as I'm not as well versed as some of these gentlemen in trike racing history. I just wanted to know if you were who you said you were. I may end up being the fool here, it's too early to tell, but after some of your most recent posting I'm thinking you may be the real deal.

I'll probably catch some flak here for saying this, but I'm used to that. I'm not here to win any popularity contests. I've been watching this thread from the beginning and my personal opinion is that you've not had the greeting you deserve. I feel as though you've been prodded and ganged up on wrongfully. I don't feel this is any way to welcome the man who potentially could have invented the Tecate. So from myself and on behalf of our New England riding group, I would like to welcome you to this community. I was a Tecate man for many years and thoroughly enjoyed whipping up on almost every Yamaha and Honda to try and beat me. The first generation of Tecates was always my cup of tea and is an absolute work of genius in my opinion. I am still part owner of one that my friend and I are converting to a 500 with an 86 KX500 engine.

I hope you are who you say you are and I hope you continue to add to our site.

Hello fabiodriven


Darn you, I was expecting a different response. There goes my fun!

Please no jor, stop, don’t do it, you’re committing social suicide. You will be ostraciszed by your tribe and put on an ice float and pushed off into the sea without any beer and cheesy poof’s

You have shown yourself to be an HONORABLE, RATIONAL, MATURE AND REASONABLE person. You should not care what others think of you, you are not defined by their opinions of you. As long as you personally know you have acted with GOOD intent and maintain your integrity that’s all that matters isn’t it?
It’s clear that unlike some others here that you decided to take a different path than them. You took my reasonable and very simple suggestion of carefully reading many of my posts before jumping to conclusions and have come to a much different opinion than the other few “haters” which your comments suggest you have been subject to yourself here.

Unfortunately some people idolize others just because they look up to them for being “famous”. They all want to be liked by the “famous” guy, because it makes them feel better about themselves, and because these people are “famous” than what they say has to be true doesn’t it? Just like Lindsay lohan and kim kardashian. A pair of great role models don’t you think?

There are many top atv racers I don’t so it would obviously be unreasonable to comment much about them however the more they talk the more one can learn about them if one wants to. I do know this, I have never seen or heard jimmy or Donnie say anything intentionally derogatory out of jealousy or meanness about anyone and I’m sure there are some kids out there that look up to them.
I appreciate your warm welcome but would like to say that I think everyone should receive the same whether they might be famous or not but I’m sure that’s what you meant. If anything I think the younger people need the warmest welcome of all for the the future health and growth of the sport and to encourage them to stick around and see that motorcycle, riding whatever type it is, is FUN. I don’t think us old people need to be coddled that much but it’s still nice.
Don’t worry, I am EXACTLY who I say I am and you will not find the belief you have placed in me misguided. If one reads some of my posts CAREFULLY it’s pretty easy to see that this would be way too much stuff to make up don’t you think? I can tell you stories that even I find hard to believe. Life was off the hook back in those days!

PS – I want to make something clear to everyone. I did NOT invent the tecate 3 wheeler. I never said I did and never even remotely suggest I did. I was assigned the job of improving the PROTOTYPE to a level of reliability and performance that met kawis and my own level of expectations for the intended target market which was a high performance racing/recreational machine which was able to compete with and hopefully beat the Honda. Results – jimmie white #1 on a first year bike. I can tell that story if anyone wants, It’s kinda cool. I did however engineer and hand build the very first t4. It was not the basic recreational based vehicle that the production model turned out to be.

thanks again "the unnamed one"

[barnett468]

Was there ever any discussion of Kawi building a 500 tecate.

hello aec300r thanks for the question

No. I was asked that question in an earlier post though if you want to check out my full reply. bassically neither kawi or i thought it would be practical or "safe". it would be fun thought just up untill the time it spit you off and drove over you again and again and again with the throttle stuck wide open.

[barnett468]

[QUOTE=M.Pargiello;1192349]Its not like anything you may have done for Kawasaki in the 80's is anything close to top secret anymore. The technology from that time period has been surpassed quite a few times. I just don't see the reason for secrecy when everyone else from that era has no problem telling who they are. No one is going to stalk the other workers from 1980's era kawasaki. Most have never been heard of, and I'm sure that no one here is the "1980 mechanic stalker type". And if you write anything close to how you type, then I really have a hard time believing you ever wrote any type of report for Kawasaki. Just my point of view. That being said, I agree with everything fabio has posted. You do deserve a better welcome than you have received. I would also like to personally thank you for the Tecate if everything you say is true

hello mpaargiello

thanks for your reply you will find that much of my reply to fabio will apply here so i will address the main item that doesn't which is a few peoples doubt of my report writing comments. i will hopefully make myself very clear. all my statements are true and i personally don't care WHO might think they are not. i choose not to associate with "doubters" and "haters" and play their childish games. i do not care what they think nor should i would you?

I have been the victim of stalking before it was not nice for myself or my family so unless you have been there you wouldn't understand my caution.

i am not concerned about commenting on any secret projects now at all, never said i was i merely said that at the time i couldn't take or release personal photos of ANY non production product. i obeyed their rules therefore i don't have any to share. whish i did, if i had disobeyed my confidentiality agreement i would probably gladly post them now, why not?. now mickey claims that he has such photos and wa sallowed to keep them and give them to magazines and post them on the internet while the project was ongoing. he has still not answered my specific question to him regarding this has he? maybe kawi just doesn't care like they used to. i don't know aboubt it but i think they would.


the japanese and us kawi obviously thought my technical rewport writing skills were better than most others there so if it was good enough for them that's all that matters isn't it? No one here has ever seen a technical report that i wrote therefore any opinios as to my ability to write a technical report sufficient enough for the japanese or the overall quality of the writing contained within such said report is simply pure unneccessary speculation propogated by those that want to find that tinest "flaw" in the armor.

there's a few different styles of writing three of them are technical report style writing, creative wriiting [stories, books, poems, music lyrics movie scripts etc.] and basic conversational type writing. just because one is exhibiting one particular style over another at any time for whatever reason, in no way precludes ones potential ability for writing in another style does it? since i am not writing a technical report here than why should i exhibit those skills? i'm just here to TRY and have fun!

if you are simply referring to the fact that i don't capitalize everything or possibly spell everything correctly etc then that is a different story. i do this because i'm not 25 anymore and it is just much easier for me to do things that way at the moment.

I appreciate your apology and accept your welcome. thank you.

PS as i mentioned in my reply to mickey, i do agree with one comment he made which is "you just seem a bit odd to me". perhaps i am, so what, it's not harmfull is it? if everyone was exactly the same the world would seem pretty boring wouldn't it. what would life be like if when we turned on the tv and there was not another new story about poor lindsay lohans most recent trials and tribulation's?

thanks again

[barnett468]

Well mickey has signed off for now and mickey lovers here will always hate me other reasonable people that don’t idolize him and simply view him as just another human being with the same potential flaws that most of us suffer from who just so happened to be able to ride a 200cc trike fast will most certainly have a different opinion of him.

I have been around racing and “stars” for a long time, almost all the ones I’ve met were very nice and no matter who they were they ALL realized that because they were a public star they were expexted to live up to a higher standard of behavior whether they liked it or not and whether they felt it was fair or not. even bob hannah who was one of the least user friendly people to some tried to be accurate with his commnents regarding others and opinions of particular situations and was still a responsible role model.

I think that it is unfortunate that mickey clearly did not live up to this standard in this particular situation and decided to take the “low road” instead of the “high” one. The reason for my opinion is this, he is most certainly still a significant name and star in the 3 wheel world and whether he likes it or not there are still younger riders that look up to him and whose behavior might be influenced by him. I think he still has a social obligation to set an exemplary example for impressionable people.

Fame comes with social obligations and responsibilities like it or not.

For some unknown reasons that are beginning to become suspiciously apparent he has still refused to answer even ONE of my innocuous questions. This begs the question, why? What could he be trying to hide if anything? At the moment it looks like we’ll never know. I, on the other hand answered all his questions and replied to all his comments in very specific detail save but one which is a privacy issue. Below are the simple questions I asked.

I'm beginning to think that he no longer has contact with his "good buddy" mike preston for whatever reason or that neither preston, jimmmie or donnie want to be bothered by him. Neither jimmie, donnie, preston, or team green atv racing manager james ever even mentioned his name in our conversations the entire time i was there. I probably would have asked him to do some tecate testing if i knew he was around.

you say i seem a bit odd, well i'll go along with that. i would say that goat breker and jimmy weinert were a bit odd too so we got along very well.

OK so now i have addressed all your comments and answered all your questions but one because like i said it won't help you. now i still have a few questions you haven't answered. if you wouldn't mind.

1. why aren't you attacking the person that made the original comment to you, instead of that you come on here and try to make me look bad, why?

2. what about asking your buddy preston about me he's just a phone call away? but like i said he doesn't like me so if he has any negative comments they should be taken with an entire bottle of salt.

3. WHEN EXACTLY WAS PRESTON PURPORTEDLY HEAD OF R/D, DOESN'T ANYBODY KNOW?

4. are you saying you don't know who the mgr of team green was while jimmie, donnie and chris rode for them?

5. you also forgot to answer my questions about the prototype photos and the 700v you say you built. just curious about those things.

6. why is it so hard to get a hold of jimmie, he has a phone just call him and he'll call you right back if he wants to talk to you. i'm pretty sure if either james or i left him a message he'd call back pretty quick. maybe he doesn't like you because you beat him on a 200 cc too, i don't know. lol

7. when did you say you signed with team green and what year did you go to team green at the building in irvine/lake forest?

thanks "the unnamed one"

[poohbee1]

what happened to this 274 # ,removable subframe i think., little hubs so you could run 8 inch wheels, no fender braces that crack the fenders instantly when rolled. It seems like everything that happened from here to production was bad.

[M.Pargiello]

Don't worry about my comment on your grammar, just stating an observation from my end I can see how typing on the Internet does not require the same level of correctness that r&d reports would. You definitely have some stories that absolutely cannot be made up it seems, so keep sharing! And definitely know a little much for someone who is just bs'ing so it's all good in my book. I wish I was around a handful of years earlier, I would have had a blast in those days! Once again, welcome and I hope to hear more

[barnett468]

Attachment 162087 what happened to this 274 # ,removable subframe i think., little hubs so you could run 8 inch wheels, no fender braces that crack the fenders instantly when rolled. It seems like everything that happened from here to production was bad.

hello poohbee1 thanks for the question

i'm sorry but i don' quite understand your question and can't see the photo you are trying to show me but i think this will answer your question. japan never sent me a removable subframe prototype model and never told me about one. i never made one and was never asked to. if in fact such a prototype ever existed which is basically impossible the it would have been made in japan where it would have to have been stolen to get into public hands. thus would be impossible there. i was in japan it can't happen. this leads to the most likely conclusion. someone made it here in their shop or garage and if someone claims it is a kawi produced factory prototype then the owner or someone that owned it somewhere along the line is either grossly missinformed or outright lying.

i was there from beginning to the end of the t3 project and i was absolutely the only one involved with the atv's in the US during that time. it absolutely would have had to go through me and it never did therefore it basically never existed.

PS Prototypes never had a VIN on them, there wouldn't be a reason for it. if tgis vehicle is missing one then either the steering head was changed due to a wreck or it was welded over and sanded smooth. Vehicles with no vin are typically stolen!

thanks again send ne a bigger photo for fun if you can.

[poohbee1]

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachm...2&d=1108426566 I see that it is not removable now I think I was wrong